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Louisville judges' handling of search warrants under scrutiny
WDRB News Louisville ^ | 9/22/20 | Chris Otts

Posted on 09/23/2020 3:03:35 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- When they approve search warrants, giving police authority to enter private homes, Louisville judges often don't bother to sign their names in a way that they can be identified, and there is no other public record showing which judge approved a given warrant.

That was the conclusion of a Kentucky Center for Investigative Reporting-WDRB News investigation published Sept. 16.

"When a police officer comes to your house with a warrant, you should be able to ask to see that warrant and see which judge said that this is OK," reporter Jacob Ryan of the Kentucky Center for Investigative Reporting says. "And a vast majority of the time, right now, it's unlikely that you would be able to do that."

On the latest episode of Uncovered, our news podcast, Ryan and WDRB reporter Travis Ragsdale explain the painstaking work that went into the investigation and the debate over whether search warrant approvals should be more transparent.

Ryan started to look into the subject after Louisville police, while executing a search warrant in the middle of the night, fatally shot Breonna Taylor in her apartment on March 13, sparking months of protests.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: crime; warrants
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This goes right to the heart of what I have been saying repeatedly. Accountability of the decision makers is non existent.

I doubt this came up in the investigation or grand jury hearing of the Breonna Taylor mess.

Also, IMO, WDRB is one of the better news organizations we have around here.

1 posted on 09/23/2020 3:03:36 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s
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To: ChildOfThe60s

What a non issue. If you can’t read the signature, you’ll certainly know who the judge is when you get a copy of the police report. Does this clown actually think you can call a judge and dispute a warrant? There are legal remedies for challenging warrants and it is not accomplished while the cops are serving them.


2 posted on 09/23/2020 3:13:05 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: ChildOfThe60s

That’s just lame. Someone asks for a warrant, they know who the judge is. There’s only so many judges, so go ask them until you find the one who did it, or that one of them is lyiung in the case of all of them denying it. Impeach the liars.


3 posted on 09/23/2020 3:16:47 PM PDT by webheart (Coronavirus, I give up. Come get me.)
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To: Yogafist
Did you not read it?

Louisville judges often don't bother to sign their names in a way that they can be identified, and there is no other public record showing which judge approved a given warrant.

So, you gonna tell me what judge approved the Breonna Taylor no knock warrant?

4 posted on 09/23/2020 3:17:54 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
We the people need to end forceable entry for executing search warrants under any circumstance. There is no benefit to the community by doing so yet it very often puts innocent people in grave danger. As a taxpayer I do not want the police serving warrants by force. They should be required to wait until the property owner can be notified face to face.

This does not affect in any way a hostage situation or if its suspected a violent crime is in progress, those situations do not require a warrant.

5 posted on 09/23/2020 3:20:35 PM PDT by precisionshootist (uic)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

That’s a pretty good stretch, going from the name is illegible, to they had an unsigned warrant. Do you really think the cops went there with an unsigned warrant and that wasn’t discovered in this investigation?


6 posted on 09/23/2020 3:22:17 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: ChildOfThe60s

FISA abuses didn’t just pop up out of nowhere. These type of things are like indicting the proverbial ham sandwich.
If you find yourself the target of some Captain Ahab, it’s relatively easy to get a judge or whatever official to sign off on it.


7 posted on 09/23/2020 3:24:02 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: ChildOfThe60s
no other public record showing which judge approved a given warrant.

Call me skeptical. Well, maybe not a public record, but a record somewhere. The purpose I'm sure is to keep BLM and Antifa types from burning down the houses of judges.

8 posted on 09/23/2020 3:35:15 PM PDT by libertylover (Election 2020: Make America Great Again or Burn it to the Ground. Choose one.)
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There are few exceptions to an erroneous search, or arrest warrant anymore. Let’s say, they file a search warrant for drugs, and they don’t find any. But during their search, they find an illegal gun. Now, you can be charged for that crime. If you don’t believe me, read the decision in Devenpeck v. Alford, 543 U.S. 146 (2004).
All courts in the US are required, under stare decisis to abide this precedent, as it is controlling. See also United States v. Jones, 432 F.3d 34, 41 (1st Cir. 2005).

While we were all sleeping, SCOTUS gutted the substantial protections of the 4th and 14th amendments, and it was the conservative justices who are responsible, largely.

There are few, if any exceptions you can raise about warrants. Police, and magistrates, even if dead wrong, and find nothing, are immune, under the most recent SCOTUS decisions about qualified immunity.

Before everyone flames me, remember, I am only the bearer of the bad news.


9 posted on 09/23/2020 3:39:38 PM PDT by krogers58
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“”’So, you gonna tell me what judge approved the Breonna Taylor no knock warrant? “”””””””

It wasn’t a no knock warrant. The police officers knocked on the door and identified themselves at which time the guy in the apartment started shooting.


10 posted on 09/23/2020 3:47:43 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Yogafist

I don’t understand where you came up with the unsigned warrant idea. I didn’t say it and I didn’t see it in the article


11 posted on 09/23/2020 4:07:48 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

But the same two-faced lefties love the FISA court.


12 posted on 09/23/2020 4:09:38 PM PDT by Fledermaus (ONLY A MORON THINKS 6 FEET IS A MAGIC NUMBER!)
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To: shelterguy

I’ll go back and read up on that.


13 posted on 09/23/2020 4:10:45 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: Yogafist

“There are legal remedies for challenging warrants and it is not accomplished while the cops are serving them.”

Ha. If you’re still alive to do it!


14 posted on 09/23/2020 4:18:06 PM PDT by Portcall24
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To: shelterguy
It was a no knock warrant. How they performed it, was/is a separate issue.
15 posted on 09/23/2020 4:23:00 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

There should be virtually no “no-knock warrants”. Unless there are exigent circumstances that some person is in immediate danger there is no really good reason for police to just sneak up and bust down people’s doors. The reason they do it, mainly, is to find drugs and don’t want to knock for fear the accused will flush the drugs down the drain.

But from a citizens point of view, criminal or innocent, if someone busts down your door in wee hours of the morning... you might very well be inclined to start shooting in all the confusion.

IMO, it’s not worth it. The police should knock and announce themselves. Give the accused at least 60 seconds to get out of bed and answer the door or respond with “I’m coming” or turn on the lights to indicate compliance with the police etc. At the end of the day, whatever little drugs the local police find won’t make a dent in the supply or demand. And it’s just costing people their lives, literally and figuratively.


16 posted on 09/23/2020 4:25:06 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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Too open for forgeries... Now comes the “cops would never do that”. I have personally seen this happen against myself and others. I have seen the same warrant recycled with a date change for two following visits with no new warrant issued for each visit as it should be.

But it is cool though, Because we all know that when a warrant is issued that person is absolutely guilty without question. Same with an arrest... Already guilty as hell no question about it. There is no longer any innocent until proven guilty and “have your day in court” benefit of the doubt.


17 posted on 09/23/2020 4:46:16 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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“””It was a no knock warrant. How they performed it, was/is a separate issue. “””””””””

So you don’t believe the Attorney General of Kentucky?

The Police knocked on the door and identified themselves and then got shot at through the door. If you do that you can expect the cops to shoot back..


18 posted on 09/23/2020 4:51:50 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: shelterguy
The DA said it was a no knock warrant, so does the warrant. The issue is if they knocked and announced, and performed the search. The cops said they did knock and announced.

He didn't fire thru the door. He fired only once, after they had rammed the door, and entered the apartment. All the cops wore civilian clothes. Perhaps that strategy should be thought out.

I don't know the sop or time allotted for someone to wake up and respond to someone at their door, before the police respond with a entry method.

19 posted on 09/23/2020 5:41:35 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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They knocked and identified themselves and then got shot at. When you shoot at someone they often shoot back.


20 posted on 09/23/2020 5:52:35 PM PDT by shelterguy
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