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OK everyone, don't kill the messenger. I'm just posting this for news and entertainment purposes.

Given that's there's no way of checking the crosstabs on this poll, it's hard to ascertain its accuracy. But if you read the linked story, here's (IMHO) the gist of the story...

"On balance, more debate watchers said their opinion of Biden improved than said that about Mr. Trump. Three in four Democrats said the debate gave them a better impression of Biden, while Republicans were a bit more divided about their candidate. Fifty-two percent of Republicans said the debate made them feel better about Mr. Trump; 42% said their view of him had not changed."

In short, Biden clearly wins debate and improves standing among likely voters.

That's how it looks like they'll spin it.

Comments or opinions - anyone?

1 posted on 09/30/2020 2:03:56 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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Dog-faced pony soldier is an idea. A good idea or a bad idea coming from an individual’s brain in “government”. C’mon man...government is an idea.

Individuals vs. collectives on full display.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage’s whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men.

Ayn Rand

Life, faculties, production — in other words, individuality, liberty, property — this is man. And in spite of the cunning of artful political leaders, these three gifts from God precede all human legislation, and are superior to it. Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.

What Is Law?

What, then, is law? It is the collective organization of the individual right to lawful defense.

Frederic Bastiat

Is it a good law or a bad law?...a good government or a bad government?...a good individual or a bad individual?...a good collective or a bad collective?...a good idea or a bad idea?

A Donald Trump or a Joe Biden. They’re just individuals...with faces, words and deeds.


2 posted on 09/30/2020 2:07:36 AM PDT by PGalt
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CBS was one of few, maybe only, ones to say biden was ahead in this. In fact, it was almost immediately released. I think they had their poll candidates lined up, and knowing CBS we know who they likely were.


4 posted on 09/30/2020 2:10:33 AM PDT by Monty22002
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As expected.
This debate, the media, as expected.

The people will elect Trump and the swamp tries to steal.


5 posted on 09/30/2020 2:11:43 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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It didn’t appear that Trump had prepared. It really looked like he was winging it.

Biden definitely got under Trump’s skin.

I was yelling at the TV obvious answers that should have closed down Biden. AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Biden was lying his ass off, but the Democrats all believe the same hoaxes.

Wallace was not in control of much of the facts and even repeated the good people hoax as if true. He did not call out Biden on any of his lies.


6 posted on 09/30/2020 2:12:46 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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Of course See BS is going to say that.


7 posted on 09/30/2020 2:14:45 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Life is tough, but at least it's short.)
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Debates may get better as they did in 2016. (Trump really got the momentum against Hillary in debate #2) but the stakes are so much higher right now due to pandemic and early / mail-in ballot voting. I’m not so sure as many people will tune in to all 3.

In an ideal world. Trump would have hit it out of the park right away and left Biden zero room to keep or gain new ground...But alas. The President is human. And honestly not a rehearsed politician. And the moderator was biased etc...

I believe that save for a miracle and an ‘October surprise,’ akin to the last minute Hillary email/Comey/FBI debacle — basically an unforeseen yet consequential event or circumstance arising...here or anywhere in the world really ... Save for that — this election could go either way because the mail-in ballot ridiculousness leaves plenty of room for rigging up a Biden victory.

What do I say? Pray up and repent of sins.


8 posted on 09/30/2020 2:15:41 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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“Biden clearly wins debate and improves standing among likely voters.”

Your article states that Trump won the debate among independents, so your conclusion is BS.


9 posted on 09/30/2020 2:16:52 AM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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See BS wrote this story two days ago.


10 posted on 09/30/2020 2:29:59 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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I sensed a lot of anger in Trump during the debate. If we have some indictments come down in the next 48 hours, I think the public will have an "Ah-ha!" moment, and sympathy and support will shift dramatically toward POTUS.

Just my 2 cents after watching the debate unfold.

11 posted on 09/30/2020 2:34:55 AM PDT by 4Liberty (How does a "kids" car-donation nonprofit pay for so MANY radio ads if it's a charity?)
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Wallace tied with Trump


12 posted on 09/30/2020 2:38:32 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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I think the winner was Chris Wallace, for not losing his temper and screaming at them.

What a dumpster! Trump totally screwed the pooch in acting the way he did: he had the facts on his side, but he acted like an ass. Then there was Biden, the Empathy Devil, with his derisive laughter and his empty kitchen chair remarks. He definitely wasn’t sundowning last night.

Trump, to his credit, got the Empathy Devil to separate himself from the hard left, somewhat. So it’s possible that the Empathy Devil somewhat alienated part of his base. I still fear, however, that Trump’s behavior just guaranteed us at least 4 years of Communism.


14 posted on 09/30/2020 2:40:21 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Constitution guarantees the States protection against insurrection. Act now, Mr. President!)
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My comment is this is almost exactly the same results the MSM reported after Trump’s debates with Hillary. If anything, these results are a bit better for Trump than those were.

That seemed to work out OK for him.

She won the debate polls.

Trump won the election.


15 posted on 09/30/2020 2:40:32 AM PDT by comebacknewt (Trump trumps Hate)
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Most annoying was Biden’s continual interruptions of the Trump-Wallace debate.

Wallace should have just shut down Biden: “Mr Vice President, please! Donald Trump and I are having a debate here!”

And I now know more about Chris Wallace’s positions on the issues than I do Joe Biden’s. Good job, Chris Wallace!


16 posted on 09/30/2020 2:42:33 AM PDT by kevao (BIBLICAL JESUS: Give your money to the poor. SOCIALIST JESUS: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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Pundits see one thing. Regular voters see another. Kids see nothing.

I heard Biden lie his ass off and throw the Democratic platform under the bus.


17 posted on 09/30/2020 2:42:54 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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I believe this poll as much as I believe the MSM’s other polls - not one bit.


22 posted on 09/30/2020 2:57:13 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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ViacomCBS.

Nuff said.


24 posted on 09/30/2020 3:02:21 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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If this was a Fox debate, folks the next ones are going to be much much worse - unwatchable.


33 posted on 09/30/2020 3:25:30 AM PDT by CptnObvious (Question her now.)
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I don’t know which debate they were watching, but Donal J Trump mopped the floor with both opponents handily last night. He has total command of the issues and fought back when both men hanged up on him. Bottom line, #NOJOE looked like the fool and demented patient he is and Chris Wallace was inept and laughable.


34 posted on 09/30/2020 3:28:21 AM PDT by Shady (It is the rule of law vs tyranny, plain and simple, and it is the fight of our lives...)
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If anything, the performance should inspire people to get off their ass and onto their knees.


35 posted on 09/30/2020 3:32:23 AM PDT by happytrumper
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Biden managed to exceed expectations. Going in, expectations were so low for Biden that by remembering who he was, where he was at and what he was there for, Biden managed to exceed expectations.

Aside from his stammering a few times, this then raises the question of how accurate pre-debate perceptions of Biden's impaired cognitive state actually were?

37 posted on 09/30/2020 3:35:43 AM PDT by fso301
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