You can not have a thought experiment with those who do not think.
You cannot reason people out of a position that they did not reason themselves into.
You can not have a thought experiment with those who do not think.
You cannot have a civil conversation with a liberal about politics, especially the otherwise intelligent ones. They know their opinions defy common sense, so they immediately get defensive and agitated. Ive seen this in my brother. Its like the logical side of their brain gets into conflict with the emotional side.