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Speculation mounts about the source of President Trump's illness
American Thinker ^ | 5 October A.D. 2020 | Dborah Franklin

Posted on 10/05/2020 3:53:16 PM PDT by lightman

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To: lightman

It was an easy prediction to make that the Media Industrial Complex would be pushing for a second lock down close to the election. This sudden ‘out break’ is perfectly timed to fit the narrative of fear. VERY coincidental, if you ask me.


21 posted on 10/05/2020 4:19:24 PM PDT by Trumpnado2016 (Fauci lied and the MAGA economy died.)
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To: lightman

https://twitter.com/CHIZMAGA/status/1313123250025553920?s=20

Prep video showing a half hearted wipe down of the President’s podium. Was that wipe contaminated? Who wears a suit with brown boots?


22 posted on 10/05/2020 4:21:19 PM PDT by EBH (My family fought for Liberty in 1776 and we will do so again. God Save the Republic.)
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To: Trumpnado2016

interesting video:

24 Sept: Youtube: 2m35s: WKYC Channel 3: Cleveland Clinic Cleveland Police begin prepping “event zone” for first presidential debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD9GFPlumNA

29 Sept: WOSU Public media: Watch Live: 1st Presidential Debate Between Trump And Biden
By editor
(scoll down)
Guns Not Banned Outside Presidential Debate In Cleveland
Ida Lieszkovszky - 25 Sept 2020
That’s because in Ohio, state law overrules municipal gun bans, and Ohio’s laws allow for open carry or concealed carry of a weapon with a permit...
https://radio.wosu.org/post/watch-live-1st-presidential-debate-between-trump-and-biden#stream/0

2 Oct: Cleveland.com: Did President Donald Trump contract coronavirus in Cleveland? City can’t say, but confirms 11 cases from debate prep
Trump was in Cleveland for the debate with Vice President Joe Biden on Tuesday. The 90-minute event took place in a nearly empty Sheila and Eric Samson Pavilion on the Cleveland Clinic and Case Western Reserve University Health Education Campus.

Although the Cleveland Department of Public Health was not in the debate hall monitoring compliance with the city’s coronavirus guidelines, the city said it was in contact with organizers who were responsible for that monitoring. The Clinic was one of the organizers.
The Jackson administration noted, though, that no one was allowed into the secure perimeter around the debate hall without first being tested for the coronavirus.

The cases attributed to planning and setup mostly involve out-of-state residents, the administration said. The Cleveland Department of Public Health was working with the Ohio Department of Health, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Clinic to follow up with contact tracing.

The city has sought interviews with anyone who tested positive as part of the debate, issued isolation orders and provided guidance regarding their isolation period.
The city reported also having conversations with individuals who tested positive regarding their upcoming travel...
https://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/2020/10/did-president-donald-trump-contract-coronavirus-in-cleveland-city-cant-say-but-confirms-11-cases-from-debate-prep.html

hmmm. SAMSON pavilion! POTUS hair shorn!


23 posted on 10/05/2020 4:23:06 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: lightman

Wasn’t there a novel about a virus genetically engineered to attack ONE specific person? The Wutan Virus, or something like that.

I wouldn’t put it past them.


24 posted on 10/05/2020 4:23:29 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Make Trump President Again!)
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To: doc maverick

These are questions which MUST be answered.”

39 days and a rat hack running the FBI, seems like Trump is 50/50 at best I think it’s a good time for a miracle.


25 posted on 10/05/2020 4:24:11 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: lightman
WW III began in March after Trump bested Xi in the trade war. Here we are now. This is a democrat / CCP attack on the republicans

Where’s all the FReepers who declared absolutely earlier today that the Trump Government inner circle and senate Judiciary Committee members got the Wuhan virus because they weren’t wearing face diapers / ball sacks at the Rose Garden?

Where TF are they?

26 posted on 10/05/2020 4:26:32 PM PDT by atc23
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To: Jemian

Examine the arrows in Pelosi’s quiver.


27 posted on 10/05/2020 4:29:01 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: Okeydoker

I don’t think any SARS is capable YET to be weaponized but the enemies are feverishly trying as we speak. Was this a cheap “assassination” attempt? I do know,the DNC hides it and there is no way they can’t get it no matter what and the Republicans were super swarmed all at once way too close to the President. I am not a sycophant who says POTUS Trump does everything correct/prudent/advisable and ask why Secret Service and other protective protocols failed!


28 posted on 10/05/2020 4:30:24 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: doc maverick

2 Oct: Modern Healthcare: Cleveland Clinic under the microscope after Trump tests positive for COVID-19
by Ginger Christ
Cleveland Clinic in July was chosen as a site for the first presidential debate after the University of Notre Dame withdrew over COVID-19 concerns. The clinic serves as the health security advisor for the Commission on Presidential Debates’ fall debates.

Health and safety plans developed for the first debate will guide future debates, the clinic said...

The commission did not immediately respond to requests for comment...
https://www.modernhealthcare.com/politics-policy/cleveland-clinic-under-microscope-after-trump-tests-positive-covid-19


29 posted on 10/05/2020 4:30:32 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: lightman
No need for speculation about the original source. Communist China, most likely somewhere in or around Wuhan. Maybe one of their biology research labs where they gathered, modified, and worked with bat coronaviruses.

The only question is the final steps in the path that allowed the virus to get inhaled or otherwise ingested by the President.

30 posted on 10/05/2020 4:31:02 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: lightman

No one wants to believe in baseless speculation, but I’m also beginning to think this was a coordinated attack.


31 posted on 10/05/2020 4:33:16 PM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: MAGAthon

Buzzfeed ignores the prep for the debate, more concerned about Biden:

2 Oct: Buzzfeed: Is It Dangerous To Have More Debates?
Two of the most important people in the world stood in an enclosed room for hours. Now one has the coronavirus. Will there be any more debates?
Coronavirus testing was left up entirely to the individual campaigns...
The Cleveland Clinic, which cohosted Tuesday’s debate between Trump and Biden and serves as the health adviser to the Commission on Presidential Debates...

The clinic did not provide specifics about the ventilation protocols employed inside this week’s debate or clarify if it had any role in overseeing or verifying tests conducted by the campaigns. The clinic said everyone permitted inside the debate hall had tested negative for COVID-19, but that individuals traveling with both candidates, including the candidates, were tested “by their respective campaigns” before the debate.
White House spokesperson Judd Deere said Friday that everyone who traveled on Air Force One to Tuesday’s debate was tested that day, but did not provide further details about the testing and did not answer a question about how that was communicated to the clinic. Biden campaign officials did not immediately respond to questions about their pre-debate testing.

Asked about the process on Fox News Friday, Wallace said, logistically, the candidates would not have had time to be tested by the Clinic on arrival, agreeing with an interviewer’s categorization of an “honor system.”
“Yeah, there was an honor system when it came to the people that came into the hall from the two campaigns,” Wallace said.

The Commission on Presidential Debates, the nonpartisan organization that hosts the presidential and vice presidential debates every four years, declined to answer questions on Friday about its health and safety protocols or its plans for the remaining debates.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rubycramer/trump-coronavirus-biden-debate-rules-podiums


32 posted on 10/05/2020 4:35:21 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: KTM rider

If you don’t mind sharing I would love to know the subject matter.
I was locked out of my twitler account twice, and they wanted my cell # before they let me back in - which was odd, as they never had it to start -

So - am now on gab, pretty happily but it is a Wild West and you have to peruse accounts carefully - not a problem for me.

Parler, like twitler - refused to let me proceed without handing over my cell information - shrugs - some folks here said it could be avoided, but I never could figure out how - small smile.

Prayers up, for all freedom loving Americans.
Tatt


33 posted on 10/05/2020 4:36:26 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: lightman

Occam’s razor. Can’t know for sure, but enough people who attended the SC nomination ceremony and the timeline fits. But the media is off the rails claiming it had to do with masks and social distance. More likely the people who have contracted the illness were all infected in a similar manner - not necessarily spreading it in the audience. I’d look to the White House catering staff or the crew who set up the chairs and tables... that kind of thing.

Possibly related to the debate, but seems to me it predates the debate.

Also, I am know insider in the swamp/DC, but if some GOP people got it you can lay the odds that it will spread to some inside the Dem camp too. These people don’t live in bubbles in fact they are mostly the type to run around interacting with (colliding with, if you catch my drift) many others across the aisles. Let’s see what happens over the next 7 days.


34 posted on 10/05/2020 4:39:37 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: thesearethetimes...

one thing I want to note.

I had Fox on prior to the debate, with sound low. Fox announced Biden had arrived. made a bit of a fuss about it. about ten minutes later, they corrected themselves. said Biden had not arrived, but POTUS had. it was quite some minutes before they, once again, said Biden had finally arrived.

I remember thinking surely Biden should have arrived first.


35 posted on 10/05/2020 4:39:52 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: lightman

CDC finally admitted that it can spread as an aerosol.


36 posted on 10/05/2020 4:40:54 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor)
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To: freeandfreezing

Given that Covid is not a death sentence by any means, even in older individuals (especially those who are going to get tested and given immediate, aggressive, cutting edge treatment), why would someone use Covid to try to kill the President?

Given the fact the Covid is just about everywhere, it’s incumbent upon those claiming that this outbreak was intentional to provide specific evidence of that claim.

Not saying don’t investigate, just saying don’t jump to conclusions without more evidence coming in.


37 posted on 10/05/2020 4:41:20 PM PDT by TheConservator (Beware the tyranny of the woke mob. There has never been a greater threat to liberty.)
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To: rfp1234

airborne...not droplets.

It is endemic.

Nothing short of full hazmat space suits can stop it.

Sooner or later:

We will ALL be exposed.
Many of us may show symptoms, mostly mild.
Some of us may get sick, and a subgroup may get really sick.
And some of us will die.

This is not the Bubonic Plague.
This is not the Spanish Influenza.

Tear off the face diaper and draw a deep breath...start building your immune system!


38 posted on 10/05/2020 4:47:07 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: MAGAthon

follow-up. this looks like confirmation of Trump being on the scene first:

30 Sept updated 7hr ago: Guardian: Trump and Biden ready for first TV showdown – as it happened
by Maanvi Singh (now), Joan E Greve, Joanna Walters and Martin Belam (earlier)

07.00 Trump has arrived in Cleveland, Ohio, and Biden is en route.

06.46 - Trump has arrived at the debate venue in Cleveland, Ohio, to conduct the traditional walk-through of the site.
Each presidential candidate is allowed to walk through the venue to get a sense of the debate stage before the event begins.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/sep/29/donald-trump-joe-biden-presidential-tv-debate-cleveland-ohio-coronavirus-covid-live-updates


39 posted on 10/05/2020 4:48:10 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: lightman

The Democrats didn’t need any help from China.


40 posted on 10/05/2020 4:48:26 PM PDT by Impy (Thug Lives Splatter - China delenda est)
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