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CONTINGENT ELECTION: Pence, GOP Senate Can Invalidate Democrat Presidential Electors In AZ, GA, MI, PA, NV: The Constitution has a process for ending a contested election, and it may be underway.
National File ^ | 12/15/2020 | Tom Pappert

Posted on 12/15/2020 3:45:14 PM PST by SeekAndFind

As President Donald Trump has received an unexpected number of Electoral College votes from states with ongoing controversies and contests relating to the 2020 presidential election, the opportunity is rapidly approaching for both Vice President Mike Pence and the Republican-led Senate to, with help from Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) in the South, deny the Electoral College votes of battleground states with suspicious or fraudulent election results.

As National File exclusively reported today, officials have confirmed that an effort is underway in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Nevada, and other states to send a slate of presidential electors intending to vote for President Donald Trump.

This opens the door for a Constitutional event that has not been seen since 1876, as National File previously noted.

National File spoke exclusively to constitutional lawyer Ivan Raiklin today, who previously outlined much of what is happening now, to learn more about what will likely unfold.

According to Raiklin, on January 6, when the Congress enters into a joint session, under which Pence presides, states’ Electoral College votes will begin being counted in alphabetical order.

When Arizona is reached, a sitting U.S. Representative, likely Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL), who has already indicated he will do this, is able to object. If a sitting U.S. Senator agrees, with experts suggesting Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), or Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) are all likely candidates, then the objection has met the “legal minimum requirement” and will be noted.

At this point, the U.S. Senate will break off from the joint session to deliberate on the objection and determine whether to accept the slate from Arizona. The Senate, which will ostensibly still be held by a Republican majority on January 6, can then choose along party lines not to accept the electoral slate from Arizona.

Meanwhile, the House, led by Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), will accept the original electors from Arizona. Pence would then serve as the tie breaking vote, refusing to accept the original Arizona electors.

This process could continue for every contested state, until neither President Trump nor Joe Biden have secured the requisite number of electoral votes.

#ThePlan Dec 14 AM Update

Projected, Worst case scenario, 12th Amendment States Delegations Contingent Election:

House Vote:
Trump 27 (R)
Biden 20 (D)
3 No Vote (due to States delegations ties in PA, MI, MN)

Senate Vote:
Pence 52 (R)
Biden 48 (D)#WeThePeople #12A @GenFlynn pic.twitter.com/bc62RDbLEy

— Ivan E. Raiklin (@Raiklin) December 14, 2020

One likely scenario is for Congress to eventually confirm 232 electoral votes for President Trump, and 227 for Biden. At this point, says Raiklin, the 12th Amendment comes into play, as a contingent election in the House of Representatives will be required to determine the next president.

“In choosing the president, votes shall be taken by states,” said Raiklin. “Meaning each state has one vote for president.”

While the House of Representatives has more representatives based on population, there are currently 27 states that have sent Republican representatives to the House, and 20 states that have sent Democratic representatives to the House. Three states have an even split.

In a contingent election, Republican states would then vote for President Trump, with Democrat states voting for Biden. President Trump would likely win this scenario by 7 states.

While this scenario may seem unlikely, Raiklin points out that there is evidence this process is already underway in the U.S. Senate.

Based on @GOPLeader interview last night on @JudgeJeanine , looks like He is giving clear signals that the Joint Intel Committee hearing on Dec 21-23 will have @SpeakerPelosi @AdamSchiff And @RepSwalwell testifying. Co-Chairs @marcorubio and @DevinNunes will get to the truth! pic.twitter.com/zPHVpi6BDa

— Ivan E. Raiklin (@Raiklin) December 13, 2020

Raiklin notes, however, that “Pelosi could try to block the Joint Hearing & kick senate out to prevent Pence from Presiding” in a naked display of partisanship.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: beatingadeadhorse; constitution; contestedelection; electoralcollege; itsover
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1 posted on 12/15/2020 3:45:14 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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CONTINGENT ELECTION: Pence, GOP Senate Can Invalidate Democrat Presidential Electors In AZ, GA, MI, PA, NV: The Constitution has a process for ending a contested election, and it may be underway.

As much as I hope it's true, I don't think the Pubbies will do diddly squat! Spineless bastards!

2 posted on 12/15/2020 3:47:09 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (BOYCOTT The NFL, MLB, NBA, NASCAR & Faux Snooze! Molon Labe! Oathkeeper!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Like those hopeful souls on the deck of the Titanic expecting the Carpathia to arrive any moment now.


3 posted on 12/15/2020 3:49:12 PM PST by LibFreeUSA ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

The usual image is Pence is a “nice guy” “quiet” “soft spoken”.....

Now he will take off his business suit coat and tie, roll up his sleeves and reveal tattoos such as “Bringing Hell With Me” and “Take No Prisoners” on his forearms as he sinks the Dem plans.


4 posted on 12/15/2020 3:50:11 PM PST by frank ballenger (End vote fraud harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: SeekAndFind
a Constitutional event that has not been seen since 1876

An encore couldn't have come at a better time.

5 posted on 12/15/2020 3:50:30 PM PST by libh8er
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To: LibFreeUSA

Unfortunately, an appropriate analogy.


6 posted on 12/15/2020 3:51:03 PM PST by Lockbar (Vlad the Impailer had all the answers.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone that believes Pence would do anything like stick his neck out for Trump is crazy. Odds are better that mcconnell or Linda would do something. In other words, never going to happen.


7 posted on 12/15/2020 3:51:14 PM PST by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths. )
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To: JoSixChip

Pence is a nice guy, fairly principled, but still mired in the swamp....Even if he is one of the more respectable swamp dwellers.


8 posted on 12/15/2020 3:53:07 PM PST by Free Louie
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

“I don’t think the Pubbies will do diddly squat! Spineless bastards!”

Sadly, I am afraid you are right.


9 posted on 12/15/2020 3:53:52 PM PST by icclearly
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To: SeekAndFind
Pence would then serve as the tie breaking vote, refusing to accept the original Arizona electors.

That's where this theory falls apart. Under the governing statute (3 U.S. Code § 15), "if the two Houses shall disagree in respect of the counting of such votes, then, and in that case, the votes of the electors whose appointment shall have been certified by the executive of the State, under the seal thereof, shall be counted."

10 posted on 12/15/2020 3:54:44 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: SeekAndFind

One problem I see (and there surely could be more than one) is that we cannot depend on all 52 Senate Republicans to do the right thing.


11 posted on 12/15/2020 3:54:45 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (STOLEN ELECTION 2020)
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

I don’t think R’s gain by doing this as there are too many who lack the you know what to stand up for what is right.


12 posted on 12/15/2020 3:54:58 PM PST by hsmomx3
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry, man, McConnell basically told Trump today that the Senate will not oblige.


13 posted on 12/15/2020 3:55:34 PM PST by shaven_llama
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

Maybe, maybe not. I think the worst part of all this is being forced to wait until events play out.


14 posted on 12/15/2020 3:55:35 PM PST by AFB-XYZ (Option 1 -- stand up. Option 2 -- bend over.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Thanks to McConnell “we cannot depend on all 52 Senate Republicans to do the right thing”


15 posted on 12/15/2020 3:56:08 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: JoSixChip

I’m still gonna hold you to “first round is on me” if the result is something unexpectedly good. :-)


16 posted on 12/15/2020 3:57:32 PM PST by AFB-XYZ (Option 1 -- stand up. Option 2 -- bend over.)
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

McConnell and Ron Johnson already hinted that they aren’t gonna spinelessly surrender.


17 posted on 12/15/2020 3:58:09 PM PST by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I thought we had only one House, and one Senate.

J/K. A little levity sometimes does good. :-)


18 posted on 12/15/2020 3:59:04 PM PST by AFB-XYZ (Option 1 -- stand up. Option 2 -- bend over.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Posting stuff like this which has O chance of happening does no help us in any way.


19 posted on 12/15/2020 4:00:56 PM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: SeekAndFind

Who would trust an R these days?


20 posted on 12/15/2020 4:01:20 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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