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How To Survive For Three Days With No Water Or Power On $200
The Federalist ^ | February 23, 2021 | Mike Papa

Posted on 02/23/2021 9:04:42 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: M Kehoe; Kaslin; 4everontheRight; 4Liberty; 5thGenTexan; 45semi; 101stAirborneVet; 300winmag; ...
Prepper ping - Water Essentials and Surviving
From them that's been there !

Known Prepper motto:"The Rule of Three's"

"You can live for three minutes without air;
You can live for three days without water;
You can live for three weeks without food "

Read the Original Posting (OP)and comments,
and consider adding your own comments.

201 posted on 02/24/2021 6:52:42 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; taxcontrol
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202 posted on 02/24/2021 7:08:45 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: KevinB

I bought a generator that runs on propane and gas. I have a 500 gal tank of propane in my backyard. I also heat with the propane. I think I’m good. The electrician will come out this summer and hook everything up. I know my limits.


203 posted on 02/24/2021 7:18:03 AM PST by georgiabelle
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To: Kaslin; Tilted Irish Kilt; All

204 posted on 02/24/2021 7:58:06 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: DesertRhino
but reminder don’t drink water from the roof unless it’s a metal roof maybe. But composition and cedar shake shingles have all kinds of treatments and chemicals on them

That's why you keep a Big Berkey filtration system in your preparedness kit. Those things will make clean, drinkable water from sewage.

205 posted on 02/24/2021 8:16:31 AM PST by Augie
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To: Elsie

I actually put Gorilla Glue in my hair about a week ago.

No, really!

Well, I guess actually it was badger bristles (”hair”), a chunk came off of my favorite shaving brush, and I was able to glue it back on with GG. So far the repair is holding up well.

That stuff is nasty, perhaps worse to work with than epoxy or superglue. I use exam gloves when working with any of the three.


206 posted on 02/24/2021 8:44:33 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Elsie
Were any of them electricians, restoring power?

No. They were people of all ages, including an 11 year old boy who froze to death.

Cases of injury to a lineman restoring power as a result of an incorrectly connected and operated generator are rare. Many more linemen are injured or killed by other dangerous situations, including the risks of working around damaged trees, and the risks of their own errors in power isolation and shutdowns.

Here is one example of a reported injury of a lineman due to back feeding of power from a generator. Note that it was a new and unique event for that area, and that the injury would not have happened if the line man had followed the expected safety procedures of his employer.

Everyone who has a generator should learn how to safely use it. But when you look at the actual statistics injury or death from a wrongly connected generator in an emergency situation is rare. It is far lower than the risks that result from firearm ownership, or driving a car, or flying on an airplane.

207 posted on 02/24/2021 10:16:17 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: central_va; Lurker

There’s being ignorant and then there’s being willfully ignorant. I read a lot of stupid shit on the internet and I know it’s early in the year but I’m guessing the #1 Most Ignorant Post of 2021 is reserved for you. Only time will tell.

Virginia is still on the 2014 NEC but even back then a lockable disconnect was required to separate generator power from utility power, let alone the use of a “homemade suicide cord” to back feed into a dryer outlet. Think about that, using a suicide cord with two male ends into not a UL listed generator inlet but a dryer outlet.

Again using a portable generator with extension cords running directly into appliances is perfectly fine. Rigging and back feeding into premise wiring is illegal according to the NEC even during emergencies. That’s when most accidents occur.

Yes if a non-licensed, non - permitted, non -insured project is done in your private residence that causes property damage or injury or death to another you can be both sued and charged accordingly, again because you willfully created the situation to save $100 - $250.

Beyond that, if the utility or AHJ doesn’t want to go that direction they can and have in this area simply cut power to a “dangerous installation” during an outage with promises to return later. After power is restores on the grid that house is still disconnected and to have power restored one would have to hire an electrician, pull a permit, have it inspected and here’s the kicker the utility will now considered the installation a “new service” and not only will you need to bring it up to current code but also the utility’s current installation guide. I’ve seen them require new poles to be installed because the old ones were 5’ to short or new service drops installed at the customer’s expense because they no longer met their standards due to height etc. The new meter enclosure will need an exterior disconnect and the generated wired per code as it should have been in the first place.

Again carry on, you are a genius !


208 posted on 02/24/2021 10:43:00 AM PST by Sparky1776
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To: Elsie; Sparky1776; Lurker
Sparky Since 2000, I have used my genset about 10 times with an average run time of 1 day. I have never had a problem. I have never called one of you $chyster for help either. Have nice day.

PS: Sitting down? Check this out. This is going to make you blow a 50a fuse!!!

100FT 14-30P DRYER L14-20P GENERATOR 4-PIN GENERATOR BACK-FEED PLUG ADAPTER 100

209 posted on 02/24/2021 11:11:00 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Again, you and your experiences are not the standard. The National Electrical Code is. You are advising people illegally to illegally wire equipment opposite of what the code requires.

WTF is wrong with you ?


210 posted on 02/24/2021 12:53:14 PM PST by Sparky1776
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To: heavy metal

I hear ya on the wood!

The Good Lord gives me plenty of it on the ground since these Ash Borers have wiped out so many trees.

The trouble is that He neither cuts it or splits it or stacks it!


211 posted on 02/24/2021 12:53:16 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: FreedomPoster
It's just a double pole double throw switch. (If you tie the neutrals (white) together)


Or a triple pole if you don't.


Of course; these are the old style, Steam Punk looking swicthes, but you get the idea.

The generator to one side, your house wiring to the middle handle terminals, the mains to the other side.

Red
White
Black

212 posted on 02/24/2021 1:07:26 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DesertRhino

Your way is good and cheaper than mine. Cheap motel for $65 a nite.


213 posted on 02/24/2021 1:11:05 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: DeSoto
I can’t pull the starter rope more than three times in my condition.

I can manage up to four or five then I REALLY get mad! (I've about 3 saws in this state of repair)

So I finally bought a BIGGER saw (yeah, I know, counterintuitive) that has a compression release on it, and it works WONDERFULLY!

Hardly any yanking needed.

214 posted on 02/24/2021 1:12:16 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

hurricanes and tornados are the cause of downed trees here...

i don’t mind the cutting, splitting, or stacking...

i’m always extremely thankful the Good Lord spared my house and all outbuildings from any damage... 😇


215 posted on 02/24/2021 1:19:59 PM PST by heavy metal (covid covid covid is the new russia russia russia...)
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To: Sparky1776

So what do your inspectors inspect?

Around central indiana they make sure you have a copper ground wire attached to an at least 8’ long copper plated rod driven into the ground and that GFIs are installed where required.

They sure do NOT check the rest of the wiring to make sure it is correct as shown on plans.

I’ve had to correct things after the ‘licensed’ electrician (and his minions) completed their work. After the drywall goes up it’s kinda hard to do things right!

(Don’t get me goin’!!)


216 posted on 02/24/2021 1:21:33 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: FreedomPoster

Doesn’t every large RV have a generator that runs when not connected to campsite power?

They must have transfer switches.


217 posted on 02/24/2021 1:23:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: helper
What do you feed your Faradays?

Mine kept chewing the insulation off of the wires.

Lost three of them suckers once. Shocking!

218 posted on 02/24/2021 1:25:49 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: helper

219 posted on 02/24/2021 1:31:32 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Sparky1776
A dryer outlet is usually rated for only 30 amps, what if somebody rigged a generator that delivered 50 amps ?

What if they did?

Surely you know the current delivered is determined by the resistance of the load.

220 posted on 02/24/2021 1:33:43 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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