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Elon Musk's SpaceX wins $2.9B contract to build lunar lander
UPI ^ | 4/16/2021 | Paul Brinkmann

Posted on 04/16/2021 1:52:06 PM PDT by Shadylake

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To: SmokingJoe

Do some reading on what NASA said happened to that fifty year old technology.

“We can’t find the plans and specs any more.”

Does that sound like an organization on the way up—or on the way down....

Failed organizations generate lots of excuses and propaganda—but when it comes to actual results, forget about it.

NASA does unmanned missions very well-but that is a totally different skill set than manned missions.


41 posted on 04/16/2021 3:28:44 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Shadylake
Musk calls to his people:


42 posted on 04/16/2021 3:28:52 PM PDT by Seruzawa (The political Left is the Garden of Eden of Incompetence - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Shadylake

Hmm, that is interesting. Space-X was considered the underdog in this particular contract race because their design relied on the, still in development, Starship. While the other contenders planned to use existing technology. Shows that NASA must believe that Space-X will quickly work out the current issues with Starship (such as...well exploding every time its tested) and be ready to go by 2023.


43 posted on 04/16/2021 3:30:21 PM PDT by apillar
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To: monkeyshine

Musk is an engineer. Bezos is not.


44 posted on 04/16/2021 3:30:31 PM PDT by tennmountainman ( Liberals Are Baby Killers.)
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To: apillar
NASA must believe

Yup, NASA believes in miracles--and they are gonna need some...
45 posted on 04/16/2021 3:32:34 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: SmokingJoe

China says they have a lander in orbit around Mars right now (got into orbit a few weeks ago). They say they are doing recon and looking for a good place to land. We’ll see.


46 posted on 04/16/2021 3:34:38 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: equaviator

Musk will probably have a dozen of his Starships on the moon before then ,LOL


47 posted on 04/16/2021 3:36:14 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Shadylake

How long until the contract is challenged because an electric model wasn’t considered to comply with Biden’s executive order that all government vehicles be electric?


48 posted on 04/16/2021 3:36:23 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Shadylake

But will it be battery powered?


49 posted on 04/16/2021 3:38:01 PM PDT by thegagline
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To: Lumper20

It would appear that Elon Musk has a degree in Physics from the University of Pennsylvania, and a degree in Economics from the Wharton School of Business. He was accepted into the PhD energy physics/materials science program at Stanford University, but dropped out on the second day of class.


50 posted on 04/16/2021 3:51:12 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: cgbg
Bottom line: NASA put men on the moon 50 years ago. The Chinese have yet to put even a donkey on the moon.... 50 years after we did it.
And, we will put a man on the moon again before the Chinese.
There really is no competition, if you only manage to do what I did 50 years ago is there? I am not sure what you are arguing about.
51 posted on 04/16/2021 3:53:06 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Seruzawa

Some of those poor sheep jumping in the hole are NASA, JAXA, ESA and military program leaders, engineers and astronauts; including the four astronauts launching to ISS this week. lol


52 posted on 04/16/2021 3:55:00 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: catbertz

The BIO I read stated zip. Physics degrees are not close to BSAE, MSAE. etc. Econ is a help to business, but; he is not qualified for this contact. Notice how the Huntsville, AL is #3.


53 posted on 04/16/2021 3:58:58 PM PDT by Lumper20 (If one never served in war-He/she should never be a Gov. Department head.)
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To: cgbg
Do some reading on what NASA said happened to that fifty year old technology.

“We can't find the plans and specs any more.”

Um, stop making sh*t up. NASA could build the Saturn 5 today. But who was it's to use 50 year old rocket technology, especially at it's super high costs? Especially since we have plenty of great, modern, much cheaper and more efficient rockets today.

54 posted on 04/16/2021 4:03:49 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: 21twelve

The Chinese don’t and never have sent a human
anywhere close to the moon.
We did all 50 years ago.


55 posted on 04/16/2021 4:09:01 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: catbertz

If it’s the NASA Musilim outreach staff I’m good with that.


56 posted on 04/16/2021 4:11:53 PM PDT by Seruzawa (The political Left is the Garden of Eden of Incompetence - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: catbertz

Agree from what I found on wiki. Musk most likely qualifies for 8a minority contracts. They make millionaires out of Corps. owned by minority types over much more qualified. This nation has gone to h-—.


57 posted on 04/16/2021 4:18:48 PM PDT by Lumper20 (If one never served in war-He/she should never be a Gov. Department head.)
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To: SmokingJoe
Um, stop making sh*t up.

Thank you for beating me to the punch.

What IS true is that a lot of the contractors that made the Saturn 5 are no longer around, or have the capacity in equipment or trained personnel to make those particular parts

But the idea that we “lost the plans” is nothing but a lie.

58 posted on 04/16/2021 4:28:46 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: tennmountainman

Musk has degrees in physics and econ. Not engineering that I know of.


59 posted on 04/16/2021 4:29:21 PM PDT by nascarnation (ro)
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To: SmokingJoe

Yeah - sorry. I see now that you were replying to a post about humans. IIRC, SpaceX’s main mission is to get people to Mars. Will sure be an interesting day when that happens (by SpaceX or NASA or whoever).

I wonder though - will it be as exciting as the moon landings? I suppose not. Partly due to all of the amazing images from our various rovers over the years. We didn’t have that before the moon landings (at least not much in the media), so the moon was REALLY new to us.


60 posted on 04/16/2021 4:29:29 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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