Posted on 04/29/2021 3:53:08 AM PDT by blueplum
The Alameda Police Department in California has released body camera footage of the in-custody death of 26-year-old Oakland man Mario Gonzalez.
...The fifty-nine minute and eight-second recording released Tuesday contains multiple 911 calls and body camera videos from several officers....
(Excerpt) Read more at lawandcrime.com ...
Trigger warning: video starts with audio of 911 calls, primary video through the death of Gonzalez, and then add'l officer bodycams. Its an hour long. And unredacted.
I thought of an invention that could aid police
We need a sticky that can measure bp/heart rate/respiration, slap it on an arm, forehead, some where a cop can see it, but cops need to be clued in when someone goes into cardiac arrest, the leg-kicking in this instance interpreted as resisting as opposed to the last desperate fight-or-flight response
Gonzalez doesn’t count to the MSM. He’s hispanic, not Black and hispanics don’t riot. They’re too busy working. So, no video at 7. That does not mean to say the cops committed a crime. The guy was spaced out on drugs. It was an unfortunate accident after he tried to run.
I sometimes wonder if there is any action by police that someone on FR won’t defend.
The three heart attacks I’ve witnessed, one being my own father, there wasn’t any kicking they just went down. So do you plan on putting this sticky on them before or after you put the cuffs on them?
He might have been on drugs or could just be super-drunk, lethally drunk. In any case, on a dispatched call of someone downing 5ths and mumbling to themself, and observed onsite behavior and unarmed status, maybe breathalizing him first, or a fire-rescue response with a bonafide paramedic onboard might have been the right next call - with the pd running last resort in case things got froggy. Someone that out of it needs to be transported to the ER anyway. Someone with a few thousand hours of medical training might spot things faster that someone with a few thousand hours of detainment training might not catch in time. And the fire dept is a ready resource, after all. Maybe I’m being too idealistic?
Drugs, alcohol maybe a mental issue. We’ll have to see what the toxicology report and background is.
I have a ministry to the homeless.
The guy was definitely zoned out.
Being confronted by people he did not know, he panicked.
The cops did nothing wrong, once a confused person feels threatened, even if his arrest is justified, the confused person feels like he is cornered and will fight or drop and curl up.
The cops cannot make that their sole concern, if the guy was armed, his confusion could also, very likely, cause him/her to draw that weapon.
People who only see events like this on video just don’t know the emotions of having to attack violent people to keep the peace (as I have as a former bouncer/bodyguard), nor have they ever given first aid or support to someone you just called 911 on because they soiled themselves, vomited blood and fell down some stairs, or started to undress in front of the women’s gym and had to distract him while the cops showed up, or the guy who did the dine-and-dash and I stuck around to watch the arrest because the woman officer was alone, like for the last 3 examples I mentioned here.
Cops being professional does not mean buttercups and chocolate for those who should be in the nut house.
and if all you know is typing on a page or a grainy video, you should make no definite judgement.
Attention Police. DO NOT Arrest anyone darker than Johnny or Edgar Winter. It’s not worth your job or your life. Your Supervisors, Administrators, Mayors, and Governors will throw you under the bus. They will try to appease the Mobs of Feral Animals and you will be offered up as a sacrifice. If Johnny or Edgar Resist Arrest let them go! Smile and wave Goodbye. Don’t worry about the innocent civilian who might be robbed, raped, or murdered. They would be with the mob calling for your
head if you used force. Retire if you can. Quit if you can. Ride around with Radio Off and Blinders on if you have to. Those of us who support you can defend ourselves and what is ours. The Feral Animals will thin out the weak and Snowflakes eventually.
Be Safe Brothers.
No you’re being very realistic. The only problem is you’re still going to have to transport them, which means you to get them under control.
It's true. There's no upside. And besides, the SCOTUS already ruled that the police can't be sued for failure to police. FIDO my friends. FIDO.
of course, realizing it’s 4am inventing, I’d say as soon as they’re cuffed. Click and stick. Or before. You don’t look so good, can I take your pulse, dude? it’s just a sticker, you can put it on, yeah, right there. Sure you can keep it.
With the right marketing, in the current politically charged environment, people would be insisting it be used same as bodycams are now demanded. On a cost basis, what does a wrongful death prosecution and settlement cost?
[And whoever reads this (talking to you Elon), and takes this 4am inventing and markets it, needs to donate 10% of their proceeds to FR. You’re welcome.]
“DO NOT Arrest anyone darker than Johnny or Edgar Winter. “
That one had my wife and I both laughing.
I don’t see a wrongful death suit here but I did see a tragedy play out. Drugs, alcohol and how we now deal with the mentally ill is destroying this country.
The police are our treatment for mental illness, which is unfair to both the police and the mentally ill.
Odd...I’ve never been held face down by the police.
Of course, my time is probably coming.
“Edgar Winter.”
LOL!
“”The police are our treatment for mental illness, which is unfair to both the police and the mentally ill.””
I agree 100% with that one.
“I sometimes wonder if there is any action by police that someone on FR won’t defend.”
If by defend the police, you mean every action by every police officer, then, no, I won’t defend that, nor will the police and other LEO that I know. However, I will definitely defend the police and LEOs as a group, because the vast majority of them care about people, their communities, the reputation of law enforcement in general, and justice.
Is there any occupation that has achieved perfection in their ranks? Are there no bad or careless doctors or politicians (yeah, I know, ha, ha)?
There are countries where the police are perfect. You know this because there are never any complaints, no stories of police misconduct, and a cop is never held accountable for anything he or she does. These utopias do exist - China, Iran, N. Korea, most of the third world.
That police misconduct and mistakes make the news here demonstrates that our police are held accountable for their actions, and that these incidents are few. Think of how many law enforcement people are at work every day around the clock in the US and how many police/citizen interactions there are every day compared to how few result in serious injury or death. Incidents of misconduct are tiny in comparison.
For too long police were not held accountable for their actions. Bodycams and citizen videos are quickly changing that for the better. My point is that not only is there a Thin Blue Line that must be addressed, too often on FR and elsewhere there is a similar knee-jerk reaction to defend the police and disparage the victim. That culture needs to change, police are not perfect, they do have some that need to be sanctioned, management needs to be held accountable, and likewise, just because a person might be bad or stupid doesn’t mean they deserve to die at the hands of a police officer. The police do not have a license to kill. Covering and excusing bad cops and questionable or downright bad actions hurts all law enforcement.
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