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Subscription Law Enforcement Service Piloted In LA Amid Defunding Police
Zubu Brothers ^ | 5-23-2021

Posted on 05/23/2021 8:36:23 AM PDT by blam

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To: blam; joshua c; JBW1949; E. Pluribus Unum; vpintheak; gitmo; hanamizu; jimfree; qaz123; ...
'Charter police' like charter schools is an answer ... WE all pay for police service with our taxes now - so giving citizens a 'credit' to buy our own police protection is an easy switch.

Let's see how long the black community glorifies their criminals IF THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR OWN POLICE PROTECTION....

It's hard to express how many positive incentives would naturally be a part of a plan like this... Crime would drop like a lead balloon if the 'black community' had to pay for their own protection..

41 posted on 05/23/2021 10:50:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liz Cheney: There was NO VOTER FRAUD Winston. YOU agree Winston? How many fingers Winston...?)
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To: GOPJ

‘Charter police’ like charter schools is an answer ... WE all pay for police service with our taxes now - so giving citizens a ‘credit’ to buy our own police protection is an easy switch.
This is an excellent and logical suggestion.

Your suggestions for the black communities will probably not
fly.

They will want the premium service and not pay for it.


42 posted on 05/23/2021 10:57:25 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Don’t mask! Don’t tell! by: GranTorino!!)
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To: GOPJ

Will the private force have statistics showing detainment and/or arrests of equal numbers of Asian and Pacific Islanders, Inuit (formerly Eskimos), Latinx, blacks and caucasians and others?

If not and a certain person of color emerges as a frequent arrestee group then that’s racisssss.


43 posted on 05/23/2021 11:01:28 AM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: blam

Rural Metro Corp has been providing subscription fire/EMT/Paramedic and I think ambulance services for decades now.

No reason in the world why there shouldn’t be private police organizations as well. Of course, they wouldn’t provide all the non-police “services” that city cops do, many of which are just time wasting make work jobs. Instead, they would do the things that police are *supposed* to do.

A day and night watch. Area security. Quick response while waiting for police/fire/EMT to show up. All agreed to ahead of time.


44 posted on 05/23/2021 11:04:08 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Poor kids are just as bright, just as talented, as white kids." - Joe Biden Aug 8, 2019)
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To: Grampa Dave

It’s easy to glorify your criminals when it’s NOT on your dime... I’m guessing hiring police - or social workers - in the black community might costs more... Their ‘charter’ money - their ‘charter’ choice...

But that’s the market system... and it would lead to a change in attitude toward violent thugs. Which would lead to lower violent crime rates.

We could move on this as a balance to the ‘de-fund the police’ a vile marxist move to confiscate large chunks of city budgets


45 posted on 05/23/2021 11:04:15 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liz Cheney: There was NO VOTER FRAUD Winston. YOU agree Winston? How many fingers Winston...?)
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“...WE all pay for police service with our taxes now...”

So you are saying our taxes will go down because the defunding of the police??? LOL...

Sure they will...We’ll be paying the taxes PLUS police protection...


46 posted on 05/23/2021 11:06:00 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: GOPJ

Let’s see how long the black community glorifies their criminals IF THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR OWN POLICE PROTECTION.

That’s a winning statement right there.

Although I’m not so sure how much crime would go down as much as the level of vigilante justice skyrocketing. I envision scenes from the movie, Escape From NY


47 posted on 05/23/2021 11:17:06 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: JBW1949
No that's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying we run police protection with the same money only the 'control' of that money is returned to citizens. Taken FROM corrupt big city democrat mayors... returned to citizens.

Each person gets a 'credit' to buy police service. They can go with the city police or they can buy from an independent contractor.

Over 80% of modern large city police budgets are used policing the black community. Now people in the black community can buy their own police protection - or go with the city's... but either way each group pays their own 'price' for premium care or substandard care...

Charger schools give the parents a chit - they can spend their 'share' of education taxes at a private school or a public school..

This would be the same. If the black community - or the Marxist community - wanted to hire 'social workers' they could. Their money - their choice.

Everyone's happy. We don't pay the same water bills... the city doesn't 'average out' the cost of water between people who leave their water hoses running all night - and people who are careful with water. Why should we do it with police pricing? Buy a service that's right for YOUR family... and pay for it with your tax share...

48 posted on 05/23/2021 11:23:46 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liz Cheney: There was NO VOTER FRAUD Winston. YOU agree Winston? How many fingers Winston...?)
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Ain’t gonna happen...Your “tax” dollars are going to go the same they have always gone...The police will be defunded and your “tax” dollars that did pay for them will just go somewhere else with the city...

The “private security” costs will be your additional cost...If you want it...


49 posted on 05/23/2021 11:35:25 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Grampa Dave
You may want to tell your hard of hearing neighbors that there are devices available that will flash and vibrate when the alarm goes off or the doorbell or phone rings.
Hearing Alert
Many states have programs that will even cover the costs.
50 posted on 05/23/2021 11:46:27 AM PDT by Do_Tar
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Thanks, I just sent that link to them.


51 posted on 05/23/2021 12:10:40 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Don’t mask! Don’t tell! by: GranTorino!!)
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To: GOPJ

“Everyone’s happy. We don’t pay the same water bills... the city doesn’t ‘average out’ the cost of water between people who leave their water hoses running all night - and people who are careful with water. Why should we do it with police pricing? Buy a service that’s right for YOUR family... and pay for it with your tax share...”

Great argument now in California as most of the state is on water rationing with big price tiers if you use more water.


52 posted on 05/23/2021 12:15:44 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Don’t mask! Don’t tell! by: GranTorino!!)
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South Africa is about 30 years ahead of this in this regard. It’s coming here in a generation.


53 posted on 05/23/2021 12:17:19 PM PDT by damper99
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To: blam
Snowcrash was supposed to be a science-fiction story, not a how-to manual.
54 posted on 05/23/2021 12:31:51 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: JBW1949

Commies on the left want to use the money cities budget for police to pay for the real ‘insurrection’ - the commie one - the one they tried to project onto us.

Listen to them talk - they want police budge money for their team... there is NO talk from the left about public safety.

NONE.

Same with the ‘prosecutors’ Soros has bought - the goal is to destabilize the country... it’s to bring about MORE crime - not less. Pulling money out of police budget destabilizes faster AND it gives cash control to the thugs trying to bring dow.n our country


55 posted on 05/23/2021 12:36:01 PM PDT by GOPJ (Liz Cheney: There was NO VOTER FRAUD Winston. YOU agree Winston? How many fingers Winston...?)
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To: blam

“For example, if someone would like an escort to walk them home late at night, they can request this service.”

Oinkers. Like Uber, with police powers.


56 posted on 05/23/2021 12:55:38 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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Of course...The leftists would really like to see all local, county and state police disbanded...Then their national “police” would take over and crime would be rampant...The only real action the “police” would take would be to remove any political opposition....


57 posted on 05/23/2021 1:01:47 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: blam

What about the taxes that are taken out of our income for police/fire services?


58 posted on 05/23/2021 1:47:09 PM PDT by Bikkuri (If you're conservative, you're an "extremist." If you're liberal, you're an "activist.")
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St. Louis’ murder rate, already highest in US, soared last year; mayor vows to defund the police!

Mayor Tishaura Jones’ budget proposal would close a city jail, divert $4M from police to social programs and cut nearly 100 police jobs!

In St. Louis, Mo., the worst-in-country murder rate is at a 50-year high, the police department has nearly 100 unfilled jobs, and the mayor wants to defund the department and shut down a city jail.

St. Louis’ Tishaura Jones, who became the city’s first Black female mayor last month, had campaigned on a promise to enact progressive criminal justice reforms.

The head of the city’s corrections department is also on his way out. Jones announced his resignation last week, saying she hadn’t requested he step down but making clear she wasn’t satisfied with how he ran things.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/st-louis-murder-rate-defund-police-mayor-tishaura-jones


59 posted on 05/23/2021 2:24:01 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Don’t mask! Don’t tell! by: GranTorino!!)
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To: blam

so...if you’re late on your payment are you cut off?

this reminds me, tho, of refusal of early cities to adopt the concept of a city-wide fire department. Which resulted in independent fire crews showing up, and at times getting into fistfights over who would fight the fire, as the fire burned the buildings to the ground behind them.

But the burning question in everyone’s mind is, what percentage reduction on property taxes do homeowners get for failure of the county/city to provide law enforcement, an inalienable right of home owners and taxpayers as part of that whole ‘pursuit of happiness’ thingy.


60 posted on 05/23/2021 7:32:46 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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