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Rep. Massie: U.S. Troops Say They Will Quit If Forced To Vaccinate
OAN ^ | July 5 | OAN

Posted on 07/05/2021 1:31:32 PM PDT by RandFan

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To: JD_UTDallas

It’s martial not marshall


41 posted on 07/05/2021 4:33:14 PM PDT by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: cyclotic

You don’t seem to understand that covid 19 is a biological weapon it escaped it was released but either way it is a bioweapon no different than smallpox or anthrax and our military is correct in treating it as such. When version 2.0 is released those without immunity to the spike proteins will be decimated fortunately it seems our military intelligence community is planning for just that. Had covid19 been closer to MERS it’s case fatality rate would have been like MERS in the 30 to 40% range it’s dang lucky for the world the chicoms either deadened the strain some or were working on a precursors strain to the full bioweapon version. Either way the spike proteins are nearly identical having immunity to one will carry over to the others.


42 posted on 07/05/2021 4:35:49 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: eastforker

I know I caught that dang auto correct thanks.


43 posted on 07/05/2021 4:36:15 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: jz638

So what would happen during that slow walking, would the troops be forcibly injected?


44 posted on 07/05/2021 4:36:34 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: cyclotic

I was just stating a fact.


45 posted on 07/05/2021 5:01:53 PM PDT by gcparent (MAGA)
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To: JD_UTDallas

I’m thinking a religious exemption would have to receive a hearing if conscientious objection to use of abortion in any capacity were raised.


46 posted on 07/05/2021 5:06:08 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: 9YearLurker
So what would happen during that slow walking, would the troops be forcibly injected?

"Forcibly injected" like held down against your will? No, nothing like that. What happens is you get told to be at X location for vaccination. You don't want the jab? You don't show up or you do show up and try to get them to stamp your paper without the actual jab. If you cause a scene they probably just ask you to leave.

Now your name might show up on a spreadsheet as noncompliant, and since you didn't obey a valid order to show up at X and get the vaccine, you can now be punished under the UCMJ for at least one article (the military word for a "crime", some of which aren't crimes at all). Usually this would be an article 92, but when the command wants to throw the book at someone, they'll throw on multiple articles just to be petty, and because the punishment is decided and carried out by the command, it's up to them to be as light or as severe as they want to be.

If you're a twenty year E-7 putting in your retirement, rarely would you get rank taken on the way out (and your final rank determines your retirement benefits), but it's possible, and a very effective motivator for guys on the way out because they've been making plans for years on what to do when they get out based on that check being the size they think is coming to them.

If you're twenty years into your military career you are also used to just giving the military what it wants, so you probably just take the jab and hope whatever screws you up is covered by the VA. The bulk of the refuseniks would be junior enlisted who haven't had their spirit totally broken. They're always the bulk of UCMJ articles because you don't get to 20 years of service by continually breaking rules, break enough and you get the big chicken dinner (bad conduct discharge), or you don't get an option to reenlist.

47 posted on 07/05/2021 5:07:12 PM PDT by jz638
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To: jz638

Ha—thanks!


48 posted on 07/05/2021 5:22:51 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: JD_UTDallas

Thank you doctor


49 posted on 07/05/2021 5:31:02 PM PDT by cyclotic (Live your life in such a way that they hate you as much as they hated Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Spktyr

“ Officers can resign at any time.”

Nope


50 posted on 07/05/2021 7:54:39 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Better go review your history again. Washington ordered smallpox inoculation of all troops and recruits on Feb 5, 1777.


51 posted on 07/06/2021 9:26:20 AM PDT by ready2brd
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To: Yo-Yo
Only after you have met your minimum commitment, usually eight years.

Eight years? My active duty commitment was 4 years, West Pointers had a 5 year commitment. I've never heard of an 8 year commitment, unless it was for doctors whose medical degree was paid for by the military.

52 posted on 07/06/2021 10:02:09 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Night Hides Not
?Eight years? My active duty commitment was 4 years, West Pointers had a 5 year commitment. I've never heard of an 8 year commitment, unless it was for doctors whose medical degree was paid for by the military.

Are you forgetting your reserve obligation? In general, your total obligation should have been eight years.

https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/web/ARN2513_AR350-100_Web_FINAL.pdf

Chapter 2
Officer Service Obligation Policies
2–1. General

Officers entering military service must complete a total of 8 years military service obligation. Service will be on active duty or in the Reserve Components, in either enlisted or officer status (10 USC 651). (See tables 3–1 through 3–4 for ADSOs.) Instructions for computing ADSOs are contained in paragraph 3–2.

53 posted on 07/06/2021 10:59:58 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: RandFan
Just checked the Co-Sponsor list for HR 3860 - To prohibit any requirement that a member of the Armed Forces receive a vaccination against COVID-19.

If your Legislator is not on the list why not give him a call and ask him/her why not?

BTW, mine is on the list.

Cosponsor	                       Date Cosponsored
Rep. Roy, Chip [R-TX-21]*                06/14/2021
Rep. Gooden, Lance [R-TX-5]*	         06/14/2021
Rep. Greene, Marjorie Taylor [R-GA-14]*	 06/14/2021
Rep. Boebert, Lauren [R-CO-3]*	         06/14/2021
Rep. Perry, Scott [R-PA-10]*	         06/14/2021
Rep. Steube, W. Gregory [R-FL-17]*	 06/14/2021
Rep. Biggs, Andy [R-AZ-5]*	         06/14/2021
Rep. Clyde, Andrew S. [R-GA-9]*	         06/14/2021
Rep. Burchett, Tim [R-TN-2]*	         06/14/2021
Rep. Duncan, Jeff [R-SC-3]*	         06/14/2021
Rep. Gosar, Paul A. [R-AZ-4]*	         06/14/2021
Rep. Mooney, Alexander X. [R-WV-2]*	 06/14/2021
Rep. Gohmert, Louie [R-TX-1]	         06/15/2021
Rep. Mast, Brian J. [R-FL-18]	         06/23/2021
Rep. Norman, Ralph [R-SC-5]	         06/24/2021
Rep. McClintock, Tom [R-CA-4]	         06/25/2021
Rep. Posey, Bill [R-FL-8]	         06/28/2021
Rep. DesJarlais, Scott [R-TN-4]	         06/28/2021
Rep. Good, Bob [R-VA-5]	                 06/29/2021
Rep. Budd, Ted [R-NC-13]	         06/29/2021
Rep. Bishop, Dan [R-NC-9]	         06/30/2021
Rep. Green, Mark E. [R-TN-7]	         06/30/2021
Rep. Gaetz, Matt [R-FL-1]       	 07/01/2021

54 posted on 07/06/2021 11:56:13 AM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, RINOs, Islamonazis, Statists, Communists, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder!)
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To: ready2brd

See my post #18 this thread.


55 posted on 07/06/2021 12:04:32 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have declared us to be THE OBSOLETE MAN in the Twilight Zone.))
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To: Yo-Yo

Thanks for the correction. I didn’t pay much attention to it, as I did over 8 years active. Never did any Reserve time, the desire just wasn’t there.


56 posted on 07/06/2021 7:47:31 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Spktyr

“ Loyal Americans in the military should have quit en masse when Biden was sworn in.”

Good strategy, Clausewitz.


57 posted on 07/06/2021 8:13:49 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: dfwgator
Loyal Americans in the military should have quit en masse when Biden was sworn in.

That's exactly what the Left wants.


Correct. If you want a military composed of leftists who have no problem with murdering American citizens on our own soil, that's how you get it.
58 posted on 07/06/2021 8:29:34 PM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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