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Article by Vladimir Putin ”On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians“
kremlin.ru ^ | 7/12/2021 | Vladimir Putin

Posted on 07/16/2021 1:30:37 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan

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The controversial article by Putin allegedly revealing imperial ambitions.
1 posted on 07/16/2021 1:30:37 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Sounds like Putin has picked his Sudatenland in Donbas.


2 posted on 07/16/2021 1:42:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: Right Wing Vegan; lightman

Russians and Ukrainians (except for some Western Ukrainians) ARE one people!!!!

https://www.oca.org/saints/lives/2021/07/15/102031-equal-of-the-apostles-great-prince-vladimir-in-baptism-basil-enl


3 posted on 07/16/2021 1:46:11 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

The essence of the historical facts he states is correct.

And, it’s a signal to the world that Russia intends Ukraine will remain, at least, in their sphere of influence.

There is no doubt Russia would fight an existential war over that assertion. They’ve done it before, several times.

And they have a million soldiers buried there to declare their stake and intent.


4 posted on 07/16/2021 1:48:26 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

It’s like saying the Irish and English are “one people”.


5 posted on 07/16/2021 1:49:32 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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6 posted on 07/16/2021 1:50:35 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

My Ukrainian grandmother took great exception to being called a Russian.

My younger sister made the mistake of referring to Ukrainians as Russian in her presence once. Barely escaped intact.


7 posted on 07/16/2021 1:51:49 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith……)
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To: Honorary Serb

I skimmed over this but I believe that the Ukraine has always been Russia long before 1919 and more like 800. If China moves on Taiwan there is no reason why the Russians can not do the same. Not that I condone but more like Biden is a disaster.


8 posted on 07/16/2021 1:53:42 PM PDT by peter the great
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To: dfwgator

LOL. Putin was very good in The Lord of the Rings....should have got an Oscar.


9 posted on 07/16/2021 1:56:11 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

He is not completely wrong about the history, but ignores the vicious repression of the Ukrainian people, including the “Holodomor “ and the death of-10 million by deliberate starvation and the sacrifice so many in WW-2.


10 posted on 07/16/2021 1:58:38 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: metmom

Coincidence! I had a Ukrainian grandmother too! She was from Central Ukraine and didn’t seem to mind being called Russian, though she hated Stalin.


11 posted on 07/16/2021 1:59:04 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Right Wing Vegan
From Russian expats that I have had dealings with,I can understand at a simple level "The Mother Russia" complex derived from history that drives Russian imperial ambitions.

From Ukrainian expats I glean that corruption and the ever constant search for the "vig" permeates the political culture in Kyiv.

Except for the Baltic and Slavic nations in Nato, I would be tempted to say let Kyiv and Moscow have at it. The only certainty I have is that Biden and Blinken are not up to managing the impending crisis.

12 posted on 07/16/2021 2:01:49 PM PDT by buckalfa (I have forgotten more than I ever knew.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

All I know is, a heck of a lot more Ukrainians have fled to Poland, than they have to Russia.


13 posted on 07/16/2021 2:02:25 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: buckalfa
From Russian expats that I have had dealings with,I can understand at a simple level "The Mother Russia" complex derived from history that drives Russian imperial ambitions.

And any Russian would counter that with, "What about American 'Manifest Destiny'?"

14 posted on 07/16/2021 2:03:15 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Here’s a more accurate discretion of the “Holodomor”:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932–1933


15 posted on 07/16/2021 2:04:08 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

связь

(Russian for Anschluss)


16 posted on 07/16/2021 2:04:31 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: buckalfa

I proposed a sort of “Velvet Divorce” not unlike what happened to Czechoslovakia, where the more Russian areas of Ukraine would be free to join Russia.


17 posted on 07/16/2021 2:04:39 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: peter the great

How long was Ireland part of Britain?


18 posted on 07/16/2021 2:05:32 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

To paraphrase LBJ: We are not about to send American boys 9 or 10,000 miles away from home to do what Ukrainian boys ought to be doing for themselves,”

The Ukraine was a Russian kleptocracy, which the CIA was able to turn into an American kleptocracy. They pay-off politicians like the Bidens, and suddenly, we have a strategic interest in Ukraine. Imagine that.


19 posted on 07/16/2021 2:10:02 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: peter the great; lightman

I in no way condone communist China’s “moving” on Taiwan!!!!

However, Russia and Ukraine need to move toward unity, in the spirit of Orthodox Brotherhood, and free from outside interference (including biden and his corrupt family)!!


20 posted on 07/16/2021 2:10:13 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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