Posted on 08/05/2021 7:42:11 AM PDT by karpov
Does anyone have a link to a serious analysis of how our electric grid & production will be able to handle 50% electric cars?
If we had any sense at all, we’d invest in Molten Salt-Thorium reactors and/or modular mini reactors. NOW!
The Chinese will be selling MSR withing a few years. These are all based on the research from Oak Ridge done in the 50’s & 60’s, but killed by the US NRC czar.
But an EV truck works for me only because I have a lot of solar on my house, over 40% of the days my solar home batteries are fully charged (meaning there's more solar power for me to take advantage of if I only had somewhere useful for it to go). Very few people are in a situation like mine where solar power is readily available and pay fort itself in 12-13 years (I live in the south, no trees near my house, plenty of south-facing roof for plenty of solar panels, etc.) and it supply 70-75% of all of my power needs, while on some days having excess power I'm not using. After the savings in my power bill has paid off the solar system, I plan to put future savings each month aside and use that to repair and upgrade the system so that I become more and more energy independent and less vulnerable to the Dims' energy policies creating sky high rates.
So an EV might one day be ideal for me, but not most people. I can't stand the Dims trying to force a one-size-fits-all policy onto us. And even if I get an EV I won't get rid of my wife's gas powered car in case we go on long trips.
Teslas are ego cars which ain’t me.
Rich boys and their toys, IMHO. That get tax breaks they don’t deserve.
But, since they all want to virtue signal, along with everyone else that has electric cars and they’re saving the world, all of them need to recharge their batteries using “renewable/alternative energy sources”. No tapping into the electric grid and getting juice from the evil power plant down the road.
Talk the talk, Walk the walk.
Just. Don't. Have. The. Money.”
That is the point of TPTB great reset. The oligarchs wants the serfs back on in their hovels.
How can that be formulated. You’re talking about adding millions of watthours to the grid to charge these vehicles.
also of note, the California blackouts that have been happening for the past couple of years. Didn’t I also read that this has recently reached up into Oregon? If this is already happening then how will it not happen even more with the additional charging load?
“Assuming we are only using 60% of capacity at all the other times this theory is great. But how often are we at 90% or 96% or even 99% capacity?”
Indeed, but there is another possibility with millions of batteries sitting in garages. The EV fleet can also be used to smooth power consumption.
Your car could buy power overnight when it costs 5 cents per kWh, and then sell it when usage peaks at 20 cents in the evening.
The main power source this would help is nukes, which are great at massive power generation but slow compared to gas at responding to demand.
Generally an electric vehicle battery pack takes an hour to be recharged. On a road trip one will need to recharge the batteries approximately every three hours and if one runs out of power while on the road, the vehicle will need to be towed to a charging station. This is going to happen and the owners and the auto insurance carriers will sour on electric vehicles in short order. A tyrannical government does not want citizens who are mobile. Just my take on this coming disaster.
How’s that heater in the winter?
What’s the range?
How long to fill up?
Will adequate power be available?
How environmentally clean are the batteries?
How long do they last?
“No tapping into the electric grid and getting juice from the evil power plant down the road.”
I just read an article about early cars. Some models allowed easy replacement of the battery with a fully charged spare. Why not have today’s cars have replaceable batteries? The fact that they weigh 1200 pounds is a problem that would need solving.
Can’t have DIYers doing that.
I just recently took a driving class.
What these guys were telling me about the new cars coming out actually had me scared.
1. Car has a camera integrated in the windshield. Windshield needs replacing, it’ll run you about $3500.
And the really scary one....
New cars have the tire pressure sensors that will show up on your dashboard. That is done by bluetooth and interacts with your cars computer. Nefarious actor can hack that bluetooth connection and take over your cars computer. Doesn’t mean they can drive your car, but they can do other things. However, with some of the Tesla, semi-autonomous, cars, they can take over the driving.
From the graphic they showed me there are probably 50+ different sensors, etc that are on new cars today with more coming. Crazy times.
Lara Logan recently did an interview on all of this....
Lara Logan: The ‘tyrannical elite’ are using smart technology to surveil the ‘monitored class’
If they plug in to the grid, they should be mandated to have “Powered By Coal” clearly posted on them.
The utility companies are ok right now with the novelty of net metering as it does nothing to affect the overall usage/cost of electricity. But the nationwide selling back to the electric companies will never happen en masse. They’ll just raise the rates to “update the grid”.
Yes, energy supply is the lethal flaw in the EV ointment. No way will it be physically possible to fuel millions of electric cars by 2030, no matter how many windmills and solar panels they build.
If they go through with this fiasco, prepare for rationed electricity, regular scheduled blackouts, restrictions on when you can charge your car, and soaring costs. Eventually your car’s battery will be required to be available for power, connected to save the grid.
In other words, this nefarious scheme is a recipe for the
crippling of the American economy—permanently.
“The ‘tyrannical elite’ are using smart technology to surveil the ‘monitored class’”
I believe your general idea. Our two cars are both over 10 years old and are pre-intelligent. I’m not wanting one of the new cars with a “black box” that’s keeping and perhaps transmitting data about you.
I use a Garmin GPS that has maps built in because the phone GPSs constantly use the cell network for the maps and who knows what else.
The problem with our computers, phones, etc., is that we don’t know everything they’re doing.
Remember when the government mandated the use of gasoline cars and spent billions to create the system of gas stations across the nation?
Neither do I.
And this is from a guy that owns an electric car.
Amazing that car batteries are just hundreds of strung together, little batteries. I was expecting more.
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Thanks for posting the video. Totally unimpressed by the “battery”. I love them using a caulking gun to apply sealant to the massive sheet (4’ x 5’) which protects the battery under the car. The environment under a vehicle is NASTY. Can’t imagine a potential leak there...
Hahahaha!!!!!
I'm sure the warranty length is a more accurate measure than Tesla's estimate of battery life. Warranty limits make Tesla to put its money where its mouth is.
Well stated, alloysteel. It’s a beautiful vision and one all sides of the political spectrum should welcome. Even Bill Gates likes these thorium-fueled plants, I believe.
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