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Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby on Afghan leaders: "What has been disconcerting to see is that there hasn't been that will, that political leadership, that military leadership and the ability to push back."
The Hill on Twitter ^ | August 14, 2021 | The Hill

Posted on 08/15/2021 9:57:54 AM PDT by White Lives Matter

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To: White Lives Matter

Perfect description of the Biden Admin.


61 posted on 08/15/2021 11:18:43 AM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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To: BenLurkin

“Does no-one in The Swamp study history?”

Sure, Milley does he can tell you about the 3/4 (sic) compromise and how in the antebellum south that was the law that blacks were 3/4ths of a person. He said it was also that way in the pre-civil war south.

He -knows- history.


62 posted on 08/15/2021 11:21:36 AM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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To: Mariner

It may look messy, sloppy, and like a loss from this side right now...

but the real loss is the Afghan people. Their own failure to step up into their opportunity.

If they weren’t going to fight for it...well ...

20 years of Nation building crumbles in less than a month. The loss rests squarely on the Afghan people’s refusal to embrace and be willing to fight to keep their freedom.

There’s plenty of blame to go around, but the core must rest with those who held and wasted the opportunity. What if every adult refugee had decided to fight, instead of flee?

Afghanistan was never ours to hold.


63 posted on 08/15/2021 11:22:04 AM PDT by EBH (Republics are only meant for a good and moral people. 1776-2021 May God Save Us.)
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To: EBH

But a few made a lot of money on those nation building contracts, you can be sure of that. Wars are for making money.


64 posted on 08/15/2021 11:23:47 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Grampa Dave

“I don’t think it’s going to be something that happens from a Friday to a Monday.””

And it literally happened from a Friday to a Monday.


65 posted on 08/15/2021 11:23:54 AM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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To: azsportsterman

“So, how long before Milley, all the Joint Chiefs, and Austin resign in disgrace?”

You have a wonderful sense of humor.


66 posted on 08/15/2021 11:25:09 AM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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To: White Lives Matter

Iran is certainly happy. We had ‘em in a vise and let them out. Granted that was really mostly Obama with some later years Bush in there.


67 posted on 08/15/2021 11:29:55 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: tina07

A lot of the blame -— a LOT of it -— goes to her father Dick Cheney. War mongering SOB that, along with his protégé W, got us into that quagmire in the first place with an ill thought out, objectiveless misadventure that took 20 years and lots of lives to lead to an ending that was almost the only one possible. I say almost because I believe Trump found a way out that wasn’t a disaster but Biden tore it up and gave us this instead.


68 posted on 08/15/2021 11:33:08 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: White Lives Matter

It didn’t help that we snuck out of Bagram in the middle of the night. That probably did not instill any confidence in the rank and file Afghan soldier.


69 posted on 08/15/2021 11:34:58 AM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: White Lives Matter

It took 20 years to figure this out about Afghanistan? Even after the same lesson in Vietnam? What are they teaching in the War College, the Command and Staff College? How to shine shoes?


70 posted on 08/15/2021 11:40:41 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: ConservativeInPA

Biden’s weakness begets more weakness.
***You can be sure the Chinese are watching this go down and gauging how weak-willed this administration is, itching to take over Taiwan.


71 posted on 08/15/2021 11:41:22 AM PDT by Kevmo ( 600 political prisoners in Washington, DC. You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.)
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To: EBH

You expected the Afghans to hold up when we didn’t even exit properly, and they get to face: The Taliban with Pakistan, various Gulf entities, and China’s support?

The bizzarro thing from a rational thought standpoint is the support from many in the Gulf States. This defeat has to further strengthen Iran’s position, unless the Taliban can somehow be co-opted to give Iran a great deal of trouble. I doubt they (the Taliban) are really interested. These people in the Gulf may well in the future rue the day...


72 posted on 08/15/2021 11:42:53 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: White Lives Matter

This Kirby dude is a worm.


73 posted on 08/15/2021 11:50:46 AM PDT by Quentin Quarantino
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To: White Lives Matter

Doesn’t this guy work for the Pentagon?

I guess he is preparing his CV after that hit the papers.

He saw what the Intelligence Community did NOT see.

He is valuable...to someone or something. DUH.


74 posted on 08/15/2021 11:56:55 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: White Lives Matter

“This proves how our Pentagon brass doesn’t have the foresight to anticipate weakness in a crisis. General Milley has failed as well as the whole usurping administration.”

SOP for the weenie deep state. The deep state’s long line of complete failures began with not noticing 1,000,000 ChiComms mustering on the North Korea border in 1950.

The deep state has been totally incompetent and stupid since.


75 posted on 08/15/2021 12:01:15 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Federal courts no longer have any standing in America. )
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To: EBH

“It may look messy, sloppy, and like a loss from this side right now...”

I think it’s a great win for the American people.

We’re out.


76 posted on 08/15/2021 12:10:40 PM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: DesertRhino

Awww, shucks


77 posted on 08/15/2021 12:12:19 PM PDT by azsportsterman
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To: Regulator
Captain Obvious Speaks

Captain Obvious just earned a field promotion to Major Duh!

78 posted on 08/15/2021 12:46:22 PM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: White Lives Matter

Just like the South Vietnam leaders. They were as week as sin, but we still propped them up.


79 posted on 08/15/2021 1:00:15 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Free Will. GOD gives you the choice I accept or reject Him! Choose Him. It depends on you.)
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To: tina07

Your description of her is too polite, but we’ll leave it at that. Of course she had to leave the previous 16 years out of it. And blaming Trump as sharing the responsibility. - how predicatable.

Putting her hatred for Trump aside, Trump was working to draw down, no doubt about that. Xiden talks out of both sides of his *ss. He complained that Trump’s negotiations 7 months prior made this happen to Xiden. Like he didn’t see it but his hands were tied and had no way to stop this runaway train? Oh and he told us about 40 days ago, everything was great that was being left behind. Just like Xiden’s hands were tied on keeping Trump’s MX border programs in place? No changes there, right?

I strongly suspect the leftists controlling puppet Xiden wanted an end to the W-Cheney war in Afghanistan b/c of their deep hatred for W and they could claim it as a failure. I don’t know for a fact b/c he was not my senator, but I am willing to bet Senator Xiden actually voted to support the Afghanistan invasion in 2001. This is schadenfreude.


80 posted on 08/15/2021 1:00:30 PM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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