Posted on 08/23/2021 5:56:03 PM PDT by Apparatchik
Where would you ever get the idea that I don't know that, with absolute certainty, much less merely think it???
And I've some direct experience with swampland in Florida, in the area of Camp James E. Rudder, and also in and around Fort Sherman, Panama. So you can keep your swampland, even if you are giving it away.
;-)
I agree 100% with that. I think what's been lost in this thread is that we're not talking about boot camp, or the Academy equivalent of Plebe Summer. Nobody would dream of short-sheeting, etc., then.
We're talking about the four years that come after that, or at least the three years after your Plebe year because sleeping on top of the bedspread when you're a plebe will likely earn you demerit. Those years aren't supposed to be boot camp. Those are the years you're carrying a course load that puts civilian colleges to shame -- one year I carried 22 credits one semester, and 23 the next. That's plus all the purely military obligations that take up massive time, and the mandatory sports in which everyone must participate year round.
Those are the years when you're battling for time to get some sleep, or to study, etc.. It's analogous to being in the Fleet, or being with your regular unit in the Army. We don't treat an entire enlistment like boot camp, and we don't treat 4 years at an academy like plebe summer.
Pathetic. I made mine every morning after the best night’s sleep I could get IN MY SHEETS.
I was army enlisted. I have a son that went to USNA. Their standards were nowhere close to ours. Neither was NG OCS when I went there.
A common Army saying from my day:
F*** the dumb sh**.
Examples:
When the cease fire was called for Desert Storm, the convoy I’d been in for the past 100 hours “circled the wagons” like in a John Ford western, set up no tents or the stoopud Woodland camo nets we had deployed to Desert Shield with, slept in the trucks and waited for word to return to Saudi Arabia. When that word came down everyone took one last piss break so we wouldn’t have to halt the convoy for a while, and we were off the dime in less than ten minutes... because we f***ed the dumb sh**.
As a supply sergeant with the rank of SGT in a slot for a SSG, if some walking rectum lost the keys to a CONEX in the motor pool— at least twice a month— it took a SSG to go up to BN and sign for the Holy Bolt Cutters.
Well, f*** the dumb sh**. This SGT went out to a local hardware store and bought bigger better bolt cutters, which stayed in the trunk of my car until I was reassigned and handed them off to the next victim of “pay a SGT to to do a SSGs job”.
People making sure their beds are made to standard as required ARE obeying orders. Until there’s an order that says “you must untuck the entire bed and roll around in it between the hours of 2200 and 0400”, all they’re doing with all that careful planning is f***ing the dumb sh**.
See Post #34
It’s been 58 years since I was in Air Force basic training and I still make my bed with hospital corners. Some habits never die.
“These kids spend more time figuring out how to avoid work than actually working.”
They’d make excellent supervisors in the civilian world.
Don't know what time of year you were there or which barracks but we were put up in the old two story wooden buildings in early April which were cold so sleeping on top of the blanket wasn't an option........
Making the bunk up in the morning wasn't a chore anyway......
On those very rare occasions when I smell coal being burned it brings me right back to Ft Knox!
Ironically, when I can’t find a fitted sheet, so do I. lol
Incorrect.
They don’t turn out ‘idiots’ - they turn out a ton of programmed officer units, that will perform as needed and promote ‘the system’.
You know, ‘the system’ that hasn’t worked, ever.
Makes good sense but it was never mentioned when I was in the army.
I was once in a company that endured open locker inspections every week. I ended up owning three pairs of boots instead of just the two that were issued.
One was worn nearly all the time and needed to look good enough to avoid notice. Another pair were worn during inspections. The third pair were never worn. During inspections the first pair were stored in a buddy’s car.
I probably had two laundry bags also so that an empty bag would be on display.
The company I was in prior to this one NEVER had open locker inspections and what inspections happened were when we were in class.
Idiot perhaps the wrong term.
“This Soldier is a great Soldier because his boots are really shiny.”
Ain’t necessarily so.
May just be a good boot polisher or maybe, like Richard Gere in AN OFFICER AND A GENTLEMAN, he was paying someone else to shine his boots.
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