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The long-run tendency for wealth to concentrate in a few hands
uk business review ^ | Sept 2021 | Helena Vieira

Posted on 09/18/2021 9:06:12 AM PDT by doug from upland

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On this forum, we all celebrate capitalism. It has risen more people out of poverty than any economic system in history. But we have to recognize that we have a serious problem. We love seeing people reap the benefits of their hard work and ingenuity. But we have the danger of too much wealth in too few hands. The elite in the tech industry control information. Other that FOX NEWS and places like FR, the so-called media is told what to say or they don't have a job. The money and power of the ultra rich controls elections. And most of it tends to be on the very left side of the political spectrum. Jeff Bezos created an incredible distribution system. But he owns the WashPost and has far too much influence in our politics. The Fourth Estate, which historically was the watchdog on government abuses, no longer exists. They are told what to say and told what to make the masses believe. Stelter doesn't mind being a puppet because he gets plenty of money for his donut supply. FOX NEWS seems to be the only source that really informs us of the border crisis. It is the only network that has drones showing us what is happening. Airheads Nicolle Wallace and Joy Reid watch the invasion and tell their little audiences that the problem is really that racist whitey does not like brown people. We watched a phony Russian/Trump narrative that tore our country apart. We all watched an election stolen but the MSM calls it a conspiracy. They call a protest an attempt to overthrow the government. I don't have the answer but we have a problem that is destroying our country as we seemingly hopelessly watch it happen.
1 posted on 09/18/2021 9:06:12 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

The very unique aspect of the American experiment was the ability to move up and down the social/economic scale.

This has been different from every other country. Think about it.

Now what has reduced our ability to move up and down?


2 posted on 09/18/2021 9:09:02 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: doug from upland

A free nation that runs by freedom at work - The Market Economy Free from Government Interference - THE FREE MARKET ECONOMY (please quit using the Marxist term “capitalism” for the Free Market Economy) - counters that tendency through open access to markets and open competition between players.

The Great America Story - not the acts of government but the acts of individuals free from government interference - which, as Adam Smith published the same year as America was born, is the Wealth of Nations.


3 posted on 09/18/2021 9:16:57 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: doug from upland

Those who spend $0.99 of every $1.00 they earn, gain money.
Those who spend $1.01 of every $1.00 they earn, lose money.

Those who have, can use it to earn more.
Those who have not, can not use it to earn more.

And so “inequality” emerges.
And so those who have not, become beholden to those who have.

Such is the way of the world.


4 posted on 09/18/2021 9:19:44 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (All worry about monsters that'll eat our face, but it's our job to ask WHY it wants to eat our face.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Long term? Think 10 years. Divide ALL the wealth evenly at one time and let the laizze faire take over. Guess where we’ll all be in 10 years.


5 posted on 09/18/2021 9:20:01 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: doug from upland

Republicans need to get back to its roots and make it the Party of Lincoln again. Study Oliver Cromwell’s rebellion. It was composed of Protestant Puritans who became The Pilgrims who became America.


6 posted on 09/18/2021 9:21:06 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: doug from upland

Unfortunately, Joy and Nicole’s audiences are not “little.”

My deranged SIL watches them.


7 posted on 09/18/2021 9:21:27 AM PDT by sauropod (Bidet was no prize before he put the “d” in “dementia.” - Schlichter)
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To: doug from upland
Do not confuse inequality with inequity. The terms are many times used interchangibly
8 posted on 09/18/2021 9:21:45 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: doug from upland
The answer is Patriots from every corner, renouncing trust in mans and his government but trusting only in the Lord, and steeling their will (as has the Left) and determinedly fighting for, with at least as much perseverance and focus as the Left fights against, the restoration of our Free Constitutional Republic.

PATRIOTS AWAKE!!!

9 posted on 09/18/2021 9:24:18 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: doug from upland

People who spend every penny they can get their hands on to buy Escalades, bling and hoes will never have wealth no matter how much of other peoples’ money you steal and give to them.


10 posted on 09/18/2021 9:24:44 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: sauropod

Unfortunately, Joy and Nicole’s audiences are not “little.”

My deranged SIL watches them.
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Audience of the two loons not small? Compared to what?


11 posted on 09/18/2021 9:25:10 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: doug from upland

What few people understand is the variability of human abilities. The top earners are hundreds of times smarter than the average person.

In previous centuries, brilliant men could not use their abilities to make huge fortunes. Today, they can.


12 posted on 09/18/2021 9:25:48 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: DIRTYSECRET

> Divide ALL the wealth evenly at one time and let the laizze faire take over. Guess where we’ll all be in 10 years. <

Good observation. And that’s why communists hate free economic systems.

Old saying:

Capitalism: Some people are poor.
Communism: Everyone is poor.

Perhaps better:

Capitalism: Some people are (relatively) poor.
Communism: Except for the elite, everyone is poor.


13 posted on 09/18/2021 9:25:51 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: doug from upland
An important point, missed in the paper, is that in our free market system, the people in the top 10% are constantly changing.

It is common for someone to start in the bottom 10%, work their way into the top 10%, leave a fortune to their children, only to have their great-grandchildren fall back into the bottom 10%, at least temporarily.

Assuming the people in the top and bottom are always the same is a very bad assumption.

It is not the money so much that has created the problems we face. It is the desire for political power, and the changing of the ruling class from predominantly Christian to predominantly atheist/agnostic/pagan.

When your ruling class despises you, and believe a great reduction in population is necessary, bad things happen.

14 posted on 09/18/2021 9:26:24 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: doug from upland

This is surely a point on which more research is needed (if we are to correctly assess the causes and implications of the very long-run tendency for wealth to concentrate in a few hands). However, the only two phases of significant inequality decline in the last seven centuries seem to have had little of spontaneous. On the contrary, they have been triggered by some of the main shocks recorded in human history: the Black Death in the fourteenth century and the two world wars in the twentieth...............................


So the solution as we all know is reset. What does history teach us?


15 posted on 09/18/2021 9:30:20 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: doug from upland

Total digression but, Doug have you been watching “American Crime Story Impeachment”?


16 posted on 09/18/2021 9:34:41 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: marktwain
An important point, missed in the paper, is that in our free market system, the people in the top 10% are constantly changing.

This is exactly the point. A fair percentage of people who are in the bottom 20% are in the top 20% twenty years later. There is A LOT of income mobility in a free market economy.

A good read is "Economic Facts and Fallacies" by Thomas Sowell.

17 posted on 09/18/2021 9:39:08 AM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: doug from upland

It has been that way since the dawn of time. Even with animals it works that way. If you have 10 people and put them in the same place they will not all divide everything equally. Any variation in size strength or intelligence will give one or another a comparative advantage. Those who have advantages will exploit their advantages and then use them to reinforce their position. Higher place on a hill, rock wall, better spears, and getting the less advantaged to work for them. How do you think villages get chiefs and shamans?


18 posted on 09/18/2021 9:40:45 AM PDT by webheart (I thought I was helping by getting vaccinated but they say I didn’t help at all. )
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To: PeterPrinciple

Part of the problem is the outsourcing of almost all basic industries other than software, healthcare and financial sectors. Combined with allowing almost limitless import of what is for all intents and purposes slave labor, this creates an outflow of money from the Middle Class to foreign countries and to the financial and tech sectors.

Financial and tech sector middle management and above already come from wealthy families, so you have two circulating paths for movement, one in the upper 10% income strata, and another for everyone else, with insufficient crossover between the two.

My family is an outlier, but shouldn’t be. My parents and two of us siblings are immigrants from Canada. Mom and Dad started a small business that never generated more than $150K per year in income. Oldest child pursued military and civilian aviation. I’m middle child and pursued public safety. Younger brother is U.S. born and pursued software engineering. All of us lived in high cost of living areas.

Parents are 85+ years old, us kids are in our 50s. We now represent four households each well over one million dollars net worth. Living within our means, stable marriages, single family real estate and buy and hold stock investing are all it took for each of us.

My theory on why families like ours are increasingly rare is the absolute travesty of public “education.” None of us learned anything about how to succeed in marriage, finance or any other aspect of real life from our school years. And today’s schools are absolute intellectual toilets compared to ours.


19 posted on 09/18/2021 9:41:08 AM PDT by Go_Raiders (The fact is, we really don't know anything. It's all guesswork and rationalization.)
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To: doug from upland
The long-run tendency for wealth to concentrate in a few hands"

It's part of the "economy of scale." Large amounts of money tend (on the average) to earn a higher return on investment than small amounts.

20 posted on 09/18/2021 9:46:04 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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