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No One Trusts Public Health Officials -- Not Even Health Care Professionals
PJ Media ^ | 10/05/2021 | Rick Moran

Posted on 10/05/2021 9:13:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

There is a public health crisis in America and it’s not the pandemic. The public health crisis in the U.S. is a lack of faith in the credibility of public health experts and officials whose double standards, misinformation, and selective adherence to certain “facts” have caused widespread confusion, resentment, and fright in millions of people.

This should have been a time for the CDC, the NIH, and especially, Dr. Anthony Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases to step up and shine. But politics and a spectacularly inept public outreach program that should have calmed fears and explained what was happening failed the American people in their most trying time.

Many will point to polls on subjects like vaccine hesitancy or the efficacy of masks and conclude the opposition comes from knuckle-dragging Trump supporters. Even if that were true — and it isn’t — how would they explain the overwhelming mistrust of public health officials by doctors, nurses and other health care professionals?

Reason Magazine:

“Trust in the CDC and FDA has decreased dramatically during the COVID-19 pandemic among health care professionals,” WebMD/Medscape noted in June. “Out of nearly 2,000 U.S. nurses surveyed on Medscape (WebMD’s sister site for health care professionals) between May 25 and June 3, 77% said their trust in the CDC has decreased since the start of the pandemic, and 51% said their trust in the FDA has decreased. Similarly, out of nearly 450 U.S. doctors surveyed in the same time period, 77% said their trust in the CDC has decreased and 48% said their trust in the FDA has decreased.”


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KEYWORDS: covidstooges; healthcare; healthofficials; obamacare; publichealth; trust
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We’ve taken to lionizing doctors, nurses, and other “front line” health care workers. Indeed, especially early in the pandemic when no one knew much about COVID-19 or the coronavirus, the raw courage it took for doctors and nurses to treat sick people was truly remarkable.

Many paid for that courage with their lives.

But public health authorities have let these health care professionals down.

Respondents to the WebMD/Medscape poll cited concerns about politics affecting public health decisions as well as contradictory messaging about masks, vaccination, and proper conduct to avoid infection. Both of those concerns were on display last year when public health officials went from condemning anti-lockdown protests to promoting protests against police brutality and racial injustice.

It was incredible to watch grown-up, highly educated people who supported lockdowns and other pandemic measures struggle to articulate why, when it came to George Floyd protests, their positions changed.

“I certainly condemned the anti-lockdown protests at the time, and I’m not condemning the protests now, and I struggle with that,” Catherine Troisi, an epidemiologist at the University of Texas Health Science Center, conceded to the Times. “I have a hard time articulating why that is OK.”

“It’s one thing to protest what day nail salons are opening, and it’s another to come out in peaceful protest, overwhelmingly, about somebody who was murdered right before our eyes,” New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy huffed in an open assertion that only protests with which he agreed were acceptable.


1 posted on 10/05/2021 9:13:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

After covid the medical profession sold their soul for $. I think it will take a generation if not longer for the healthcare profession to regain any credibility aside from nurses. Researchers, government agencies, pharma, hospitals, doctors who only follow CDC directives and no longer practice medicine, CDC/FDA/AMA, even down to the local health departments have crapped the bed.

With a propaganda ministry instead of a robust media people have to research and use common sense anymore for medical issues, covid has shown the medical profession is guilty of mass murder with their CDC covid directives of Remdisivir and the vent, it’s a death sentence.


2 posted on 10/05/2021 9:31:02 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: SeekAndFind

I no longer trust my doctors. Most do not believe in or provide early treatment with what we all know WORKS to keep people out of the hospital. Instead, we get the following nonsense:
“Covid-19 does not have any real treatment for mild to moderate disease.”

“There is no antibiotic or antiviral effective against mild to moderate illness at this time.”

Positive Covid-19 Diagnosis Guidelines

Baylor, Scott & White August 21 2021


3 posted on 10/05/2021 9:49:05 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: sarge83

Was it a thirst for $ or a desire to facilitate a worldwide globalist power play?

I think the latter, and it’s not even close

Consider my response today to a similar comment to yours on a different post/thread:

CDC Allows Hospitals To Classify Dead Vaxxed People As “Unvaccinated”
10/5/2021, 9:10:30 AM · 27 of 51
one guy in new jersey to rarestia

“...set back the medical establishment decades in the trust department. Medicine has become about money, not care, and that’s destructive of its purpose.”
__________

...set back the medical establishment *millennia* in the trust department *to the time prior to Hippocrates*. Medicine has become about *tyrannical power over the unwashed masses*, not care, and that’s *180 degrees opposed to* its purpose.

Fixed that fer ya!

The nineties called.

They want their well-earned indictment of the medical establishment back.

It’s scheduled for display at the Museum of the Quaint, in the Hall of the Deadly Serious At The Time, in the Room of the Quietly Replaced By A Much More Enormous and Immediately Dangerous Scandal While You Were Busy Coaching Softball.


4 posted on 10/05/2021 9:51:14 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: sarge83
Dr’s and Nurses are unfortunately put in the position where advising their patients NOT to get the shot can mean they loose their job or/and their license to practice. Thus we have Dr’s offices recommending everyone get the shot rather than address the individuals health regarding getting the shot.
5 posted on 10/05/2021 10:00:20 AM PDT by caww ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

From the comments section at Medscape:

Dr. alexander baumgartenMay 25, 2021
As a former FDA consultant/panel member for many years, on many topics and panels, I had always been aware of the political pressures and bureaucratic recourse to self preservation and obstinacy. However, the C19 pandemic revealed a new depth to the inappropriateness of the reactions of both the FDA and CDC. One cannot help but ponder the mischief of direct political influence on Federal institutions. While political oversight of administrative matters is to be expected and is likely necessary, the political influence on the appointment of the directors and in turn senior staff, as well as its adverse, selective, and no doubt suppressive effect on the directives, advice and actions of the Federal agencies, can only be regarded as disruptive and dangerous for to the welfare of the public. Administrative concerns should fall under the direction of a politically appointed administrator. Scientific direction should be the province of independent scientists, selected by other scientists, and independent of politics. Science should not be subjected to the political game, or all of us become losers.

Dr. James Marshall| Internal MedicineMay 25, 2021
These agencies lost their credibility once they bowed to political pressure to advance the fear agenda. They flip flop daily on masks and which vaccine is safe. sadly, I no longer feel I can trust them at all. This goes double for the WHO, whose behavior at the onset of this was nothing short of criminally negligent. It is really a sad day for medicine.

doris garritt| Registered Nurse (RN)Jun 1, 2021
My trust in CDC and FDA has decreased due to the obvious manipulation by politicians . As a prior Public Health Nurse who worked during the initial HIV/AIDS crisis I understand that as more knowledge is gained policies and recommendations change. This pandemic may it very apparent that the purse strings have more influence than the science.


6 posted on 10/05/2021 10:01:09 AM PDT by consult
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To: sarge83

too many corporate quacks who follow orders without questions and not enough doctors who think for themselves


7 posted on 10/05/2021 10:03:03 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: SeekAndFind
The healthcare industry long ago switched from medicine to law and finance.

"What treatment will legally bring the most money into the company?"

Right behind it was, "If the patient can't afford the highest rate treatment we can legally provide, how do we get the taxpayers to pay for it?"

since then it's been growing adversarial divides between doctor and company as well as company and patient through the doctor.

8 posted on 10/05/2021 10:25:28 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: joshua c

I have a friend who was hospitalized last week with covid, no vax. She is healthy and in her late 50’s. She sent a video to friends where essentially she was trapped in her hospital room and suffocating. Her 02 level was 77 and she was gasping as she talked with 4 liters of 02 as her treatment up to that point. She had pneumonia and covid and had requested a high dose of vitiman C and another drug which I didn’t recognize. She had a legal DNR and no vent letter.

The doctor refused to do any treatments as she requested or consider them. His treatment was CDC playbook 101: remdisivir and ventilator and she was having none of that and they wouldn’t release her or allow family to visit her. She took a marker and wrote on her arm: No remidisivir, No ventilator, NO DNR in case she passed out from lack of 02. Another friend sent the video to a legal group and an attorney called the hospital that night and by morning she had nurses whispering this is what insurance is for and acting coldly toward her and a visit from the head nurse and administrator—into a patient with covid room trying to defend their lack of treatment and recommended treatment over and over.

They discharged her and another doctor took her case and she is struggling at home but improving daily. This doctor and hospital was going to follow the CDC playbook and murder this woman: remdisivir, vent and slow death with no family to watch her die or protest.


9 posted on 10/05/2021 10:53:59 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: SeekAndFind

There is a very old Irish saying, “Stay away from the doctors because they will kill you.” People can judge for themselves how much things have changed since doctors used to use leaches on patients.


10 posted on 10/05/2021 11:00:48 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: SeekAndFind

No One Trusts Public Health Officials
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WRONG! The sad fact is there are tens of millions of people who emphatically trust PHOs! We have watched them hysterically running as far as necessary to get the jab. And damn near every yapper on the airwaves is attempting to shame non-vaxxers to immediately run out and get the shots.


11 posted on 10/05/2021 11:14:34 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat
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To: sarge83

You point out the very reason people no longer trust doctors. The standard COVID treatment as of a few days ago was to tell the patient to take tylenol at home until they have shortness of breath. Then they come to the hospital and it’s pretty much too late. Still, with HCQ & IVM they could likely recover. But “hospitals” aren’t about to give patients real therapeutic treatments, treatments shown to be miraculous in other countries. Instead they push remdesivir, shown to kill people more quickly than the virus. But hey, it’s a big charge that can be added to the patient’s final bill after they expire. It’s disgusting and criminal. What’s even more disgusting is the CDC & FDA, who devised that lack of care as THE standard of care. That means the hospital would likely evade liability, if they’re meeting that murderous CDC/FDA standard of care. And the CDC & FDA have sovereign immunity meaning they will evade liability too. So basically they’re letting people die to drive up fear and add to the scary stats. That’s beyond vile to murderous. It’s murder to just watch people die when you could cure them. So I now trust doctors about as much as I trust politicians.


12 posted on 10/05/2021 11:36:49 AM PDT by afsnco (18 of 20 in AF JAG)
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To: afsnco

Last October my oldest son tested positive and said go get tested and I was positive for the rona. I thought I had an sinus infection, classic symptoms I have had many times over the years and SOP is call the doctor and he calls in antibiotics and prednisone steroid. I had started taking the antibiotics/prednisone on a Tuesday and symptoms hit that Monday evening.

Thursday I tested positive at an Urgent Care and the doctor there was sending me home with no treatment whatsoever other than OTC. I mentioned I had been taking antibiotics/prednisone since I thought it was a sinus infection and she said go ahead and finish them, they can’t hurt you or help you, although I believe they really helped lesson my run in with the rona. It was a mild case with taste not disappearing but changing for a day or so and a relentless headache which lasted a solid 7-8 days.

My adult son, daughter, son-in-law and three year old grandson tested positive. The adults lost taste/smell and the three year old never slowed down five seconds. My wife slept in same bed and used same bathroom the entire time and still hasn’t caught the rona. The doctor never prescribed anything for them, just go home.

My GP saw me via telemed visit the following March and found out I had rona and he was all into get the jab, even though I have had MANY of the side effects and he still kept going on and said I took it already. He dismissed natural immunity and said the jabs was better. Finally I told him, if nothing falls off him in five years I might consider it, otherwise I’ll stick with natural immunity and he dropped it. I had checkup last month with him and he had just returned to work after having caught, yep covid and he sounded almost depressed and beaten. He never pushed the jab and essentially said for me to do what I need to do to protect myself with my previous conditions he understood completely. I had lost a lot of respect for him with the March visit and he redeemed himself some what with the September visit.


13 posted on 10/05/2021 12:03:11 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: sarge83

My family all had Covid in April. My wife & one son were hospitalized. I had no symptoms, neither did my other son. The hospital REALLY pushed the vax when my wife was discharged.

When I mentioned that to my family doctor, he said in his opinion we were as protected as possible. But if we wanted to get stuck, he could do it.

No thanks.


14 posted on 10/05/2021 12:07:55 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

When my son test positive for the Chicom virus, our family doctor put us all on Ivermectin and told us to increase our Vitamin D.


15 posted on 10/05/2021 12:10:35 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: afsnco
You point out the very reason people no longer trust doctors. The standard COVID treatment as of a few days ago was to tell the patient to take tylenol at home until they have shortness of breath.

I am an ICU nurse. I have no trust in policical FDA and CDC. I have lost respect for PCPs leaving their patients without preventative and early treatments for Covid symptoms. We are living in bizzarro land.

16 posted on 10/05/2021 12:17:27 PM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ ("In God We Trust")
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To: SeekAndFind
The bottom line is that the public health authorities presented themselves as the wise men of the pandemic when it began but most people now see them as clowns.

Unfortunately that is what the medical profession has done to itself.

You can't have any evidence to support or refute your solution if you don't gather the data.

The public health authorities have had well over a year to gather facts, but instead have supported having mandated unsubstantiated masks and experimental injected drugs onto people, even after some evidence has shown this may not be good health practice. - Tom

17 posted on 10/05/2021 12:27:44 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (.It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge - )
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To: proud2beconservativeinNJ

I am an ICU nurse. I have no trust in policical FDA and CDC. I have lost respect for PCPs leaving their patients without preventative and early treatments for Covid symptoms. We are living in bizzarro land.
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Thank you so much for all you have done for so many over the past years. Daughter-in-law is an ER nurse for decades in a major metro hospital and shares your mindset. She’s waiting to be “fired” for having worked through covid, got covid, got antibodies, and now wants nothing to do with EUA injections.

Yes, this has every appearance of a genocidal dystopia.


18 posted on 10/05/2021 12:50:39 PM PDT by JCL3 (As Richard Feynman might have said, this is reality taking precedence over public relations.)
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To: proud2beconservativeinNJ; JCL3

Thank both of you for your witness.


19 posted on 10/05/2021 1:00:47 PM PDT by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: JCL3

Here’s the complete list of things that have no innocent explanation:

-They’re completely ignoring natural immunity, which is AT LEAST as effective as the shot, and may well last for a lifetime, unlike the shots which obviously require boosters at least yearly. So why the insistence on shots after contracting and surviving the virus? There’s much evidence the shots are especially dangerous to people in this category. Why are they insisting on this? This is immunity 101.

-Why do the shots NOT confer immunity but are really just a dangerous therapeutic, as proven by OPENVAERS.com, the CDC’s own vax stats, (which is proven to underreport by a factor of 10x to 100x)? Especially when other therapeutics have been wildly successful overseas, and far less dangerous. The vaxxed can contract and spread the disease just as easily as the unvaxxed, so why is the Biden administration demonizing the unvaxxed? Shouldn’t it be the shot that’s demonized, for not working, and the shills demonized, for pushing them? If the shots were truly effective, they shouldn’t care if anyone else has had them.

-They’re refusing to treat the virus until and unless the patient needs oxygen and it’s pretty much too late. Why, when other countries like India have successfully used ivermectin/zinc/Vitamin D early and late in the illness to fight it off? There have been numerous lawsuits to force hospitals to administer ivermectin, which if administered saves the patient’s life. Instead they treat with remdesivir, which will kill the patient even faster than the virus. Swine flu shots were stopped after only a few dozen people were killed. So why, with thousands if not tens of thousands of deaths so far, are these shots not discontinued?

-They’re cutting off the supply and demonizing ANY effective therapeutics that have proved wildly successful in other countries. Why?

-Why are they trying to mandate the shot, when the only shot that’s received the FDA’s (rushed) approval (comirnaty) won’t be available for years? So they’re mandating the EUA shots exclusively, which is supposed to be illegal. Why?

-Why do the pharmas enjoy complete immunity from lawsuits until 2024? Why don’t they accept responsibility for their products, if they’re so safe? Is this why they’re trying to impose the mandates so desperately, before their liability kicks in? How much of a cut does the “Big Guy” get?

-Why are some employers being such suckers, likely unwittingly accepting the liability the pharmas should be shouldering, by imposing mandates on their employees. These employers should be sued into oblivion if employees suffer death or injury, because the proximate cause of their death or injury would be their employer’s idiotic new vax condition of employment.

-Why the suppression of vaccine adverse events in big tech and the media, calling it “misinformation?” What about the whistleblower who provided evidence of 50k Medicare vax deaths reported in CMS? What about the (grossly underreported) number of deaths in OPENVAERS? What about the doctor in Canada who discovered that 62% of his patients who had been jabbed had microclots, proven by the D Dimer test?

None of these things have an innocent explanation. Taken together, this is either murderous greed or genocide.


20 posted on 10/05/2021 1:20:39 PM PDT by afsnco (18 of 20 in AF JAG)
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