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To: ChicagoConservative27; All

“Jennifer and Jason Crumbley were charged with four counts each of involuntary manslaughter on Friday, a rare move by prosecutors who said the parents failed to secure their guns and didn’t respond to their son’s distressing behavior. “

Ludicrous!

There is no law in MI that requires guns to be locked up. And there’s been no information made public that the parents knew their kid was a threat.

It’s an unfounded political prosecution.


10 posted on 12/03/2021 1:08:52 PM PST by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

The prosecutor alleges that the parents were told about the problems and threats in the days leading up to the shooting - including a meeting that day.

IF that’s true (and I’m not sure it is given all the prosecutorial misconduct going around) then the parents gave him a gun in the midst of that and that IS culpability.


17 posted on 12/03/2021 1:19:38 PM PST by Skywise
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To: Mariner

Common sense says the guns should have been locked up.


26 posted on 12/03/2021 1:48:17 PM PST by madison10
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“””And there’s been no information made public that the parents knew their kid was a threat.”””


Wrong. The parents were shown the threatening drawings done by their son just hours before their son shot and killed four kids.


32 posted on 12/03/2021 2:10:11 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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There has been some information and it indicates incredibly dysfunctional parenting.

“The dad had bought the semi-automatic 9mm Sig Sauer handgun his son allegedly used just four days earlier, on Black Friday, officials previously revealed.

The second-year student then posed with it on social media, which suggested it was “freely available” in the family home before the slaughter, Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald previously said.

His mother, Jennifer Crumbley, posted a picture online about using the gun, saying “mom and son day testing out his new xmas present.”

https://nypost.com/2021/12/03/parents-of-oxford-school-shooting-suspect-ethan-crumbley-to-be-charged/

“ McDonald said Friday that on the day of the shooting, a teacher saw drawings on Crumbley’s desk which led to the parents being called into school. The drawings included a picture of a semi-automatic handgun pointed at the words “the thoughts won’t stop, help me” and “blood everywhere,” along with a picture of someone shot and bleeding. The drawing also contained the words “my life is useless” and “the world is dead.”

When the parents met with their son and counselor, they did not inspect his backpack or ask him about the gun, according to the prosecutor. She also said the parents declined to take Ethan home after the meeting.”

IMO the school officials that did not suspend the kid and call the police when he was openly drawing pictures of blood and death at his desk…should be culpable


50 posted on 12/03/2021 2:49:15 PM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: Mariner

Once in awhile common sense should prevail. The guns should have been secured with a juvenile in the home. NOW they will push some overbearing law about locking guns up and people in bad neighborhoods will have a harder time defending themselves.


56 posted on 12/03/2021 3:47:40 PM PST by madison10
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To: Mariner

The manslaughter is not for not having the guns secured, but for purchasing the gun for an underage person and that gun was used in a crime. Also a Michigan law: if a gun is used in a crime and it was not locked up the owner is liable. Depends how the prosecutor stated it.

As has been mentioned, Michigan has no mandatory gun storage laws. Most people are smarter than those parents and secure their weapons where juveniles cannot get to them


57 posted on 12/03/2021 4:01:05 PM PST by madison10
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