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Alan Dershowitz: Kim Potter's Conviction Carries 'Dangerous Implications'
Newsmax ^ | December 24, 2021 | Sandy Fitzgerald

Posted on 12/24/2021 11:21:44 AM PST by Navy Patriot

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To: Navy Patriot

She was denied Bail? Insane.


61 posted on 12/24/2021 12:59:02 PM PST by marktwain (Amazing people can read a persons entire personality and character from one photograph.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
From what I understand the thug who inexplicably was out on the street after committing an armed robbery amongst other crimes, was trying to drive away putting the lives of fellow officers in danger who could have been run over. Right there she had the right to shoot the bastard.

Correct, until you get the Marxist Lawyers involved, then the Law changes it's meaning until it's unrecognizable.

Her biggest mistake was admitting right away she meant to Taser him.

hummm, an honest cop.

You should also read the last two lines of my post #42.

62 posted on 12/24/2021 12:59:58 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: MercyFlush; All
Sorry, but if you accidentally shoot a cop you’ll hang. Assuming you survive the arrest and booking.

False.

Quite a few have shot police officers and been found not guilty.

TX: David Wilson, who Shot and Killed Officer, Acquitted after Jury Trial

63 posted on 12/24/2021 1:02:26 PM PST by marktwain (Amazing people can read a persons entire personality and character from one photograph.)
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To: justme4now
Her own superiors testified that even if she had purposely used deadly force .. it would have been Justified!

Oh, other cops excused her mistake?

Makes do difference to me.

64 posted on 12/24/2021 1:05:11 PM PST by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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To: Navy Patriot

I have mostly tried to stay out of this discussion.

The Police office made a mistake. I think she meant to use non-deadly force, but ended up using deadly force. I don’t think many people, even the officer, deny that to be the case. I agree, that she would have been justified to use deadly force, since the deceased endangered many many lives. Nobody here seem to argue that point.

Here is my basic problem. You are under the influence, and you hurt somebody in an accident you are guilty. The assumption is that it could have been avoided (even if not your fault) if you would not have been under the influence.

Lets take that to situations like this and the incidents in Minneapolis, Kenosha, and this. Why is a police officer responsible when the person tries to do bodily harm to police officers, sometimes under the influence, and fails to follow lawful commands? In my opinion, the officers are NOT responsible for injuries to persons, when the those who are breaking the law attempt to attack or endanger the officers, especially if they are under the influence.

The message has become clear, criminals are NOT responsible when they commit crimes and attack or endanger the police officers when they give lawful commands. To me, that just doesn’t make sense.


65 posted on 12/24/2021 1:08:29 PM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: BenLurkin

How does someone mistake a handgun for a tazer? Are the tazers not big clunky things? I don’t think she meant to kill the guy. It’s almost like she had a seizure or something. Or perhaps she was just not cut out for that kind of pressure. This just underscores the importance of not putting the cops in that kind of situation.


66 posted on 12/24/2021 1:15:53 PM PST by beef (The Chinese have a little secret—diversity is _not_ a strength.)
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To: unclebankster
I'm not sure the Colorado truck driver incident is a good comparison.

There are reports that Rogel Lazaro Aguilera-Mederos was speeding for a long time and distance, overtaxing his drum brakes on curves, and not using his truck's engine compression braking ability because a driver must keep speed down to use that braking.

Rogel's drum brakes overheated and failed because his driving choices violated training over a significant period of time in which he had to think about that.

Potter had maybe two seconds to realize that fellow officers had lost control of Wright.

Economically speaking, you are correct, Police are non producers, as are all Government Employees, however Rogel destroyed significant product before it got to market, resulting in a whopping loss.

Care to reconsider?

67 posted on 12/24/2021 1:18:09 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: The Antiyuppie

Agreed and who’s to say if even a police officer could do that, what guarantee is there that the perp gives up? Center mass shooting is designed for several reasons: first it’s the largest part of the body, second is it contains the vital organs and arteries to stop the perp and finally, if any of the vital organs are hit, the person is less likely to be able to fight back due to shock.


68 posted on 12/24/2021 1:21:53 PM PST by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Pete Dovgan
Best response yet, Pete.

Keep 'em coming.

69 posted on 12/24/2021 1:22:10 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

Civilians are sentenced for accidental deaths frequently

Judges rarely release murder or manslaughter convictions on bail pending sentencing

Not to say I’m not sympathetic to the woman

But these are the facts...


70 posted on 12/24/2021 1:28:06 PM PST by wardaddy (Too many uninformed ..and scolds here )
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To: Navy Patriot

In the Democrat world there are crimes, and there are political crimes.


71 posted on 12/24/2021 1:33:55 PM PST by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: cherry

Civilians are prosecuted for accidents leading to injury or death routinely

It’s just how it is.

A mistake

Look at your text and plow into the back of minivan .....you didn’t mean to....and some dead or paralyzed kids

And you’ll likely do some pokey time

Pull your taser by accident and blast a nut bag wanted on minor charges warrants who’s bucking up

Note none of her fellow officers were ready to go weapns yet....

And you will likely be charged

I’d prefer a lesser offense like RD first degree or manslaughter 3rd

And the fact the dead boy is a shitbag is beside the point ....largely

We do not want cops determine who to execute based on criminal history....that’s ridiculous as some here propose

Who’s going to make that determination

The same police chiefs standing down on ANTIFA and ramping up against our side...?

We have laws for a reason


72 posted on 12/24/2021 1:34:50 PM PST by wardaddy (Too many uninformed ..and scolds here )
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To: Navy Patriot

If she’d been convicted of homicide in the first degree, if consider it a travesty of justice. But she wasn’t.

She was convicted of first and second degree manslaughter.

From my understanding of the law, second degree manslaughter seems appropriate, first might be a reach.

But I didn’t sit through the evidence, the jury did, and I see no specific grounds for disagreeing with them.


73 posted on 12/24/2021 1:45:39 PM PST by jdege
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To: AlaskaErik
In the Democrat world there are crimes, and there are political crimes.

Actually, in Democrat World there are Political Crimes, and Democrats are above the law, unless they step out of the Democrat pecking order.

74 posted on 12/24/2021 1:45:44 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: for-q-clinton

Mistakes can be crimes. If I mistakenly leave a gun out and a kid uses it...I can be charged. If I mistakenly pull a trigger on my gun and kill someone I can be charged.

Shut Up Alec.......sarc

Only certain people get charged.


75 posted on 12/24/2021 1:46:35 PM PST by SteelPSUGOP
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To: OldWarBaby
Well said. Government agents have long gotten passes. The entire system has been corrupted for a long time.
76 posted on 12/24/2021 1:57:58 PM PST by Theoria
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To: Navy Patriot

So she gets convicted but the cop who shot Ashli Babbit goes free.


77 posted on 12/24/2021 2:06:18 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: Navy Patriot

Dersh revving up the Alec Baldwin defense.


78 posted on 12/24/2021 2:07:23 PM PST by damper99
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To: Fishtalk

One can make a lot of mistakes when adrenaline and reasonable fear of death take over. She should be charged with manslaughter, but there should be only a token sentence given. A month in jail and 100 hours of community service should suffice. And she should be able to keep her job. The idiocy of every law enforcement officer having to make perfect split-second decisions has to stop. Unless society is willing to accept anarchy as the norm. Not me.


79 posted on 12/24/2021 2:14:01 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: All

2 of the Jurors were not guilty, prior to the Judge scolding the jury and sending them back for a decision.

I believe those 2 jurors will not sleep well for many years for sending the cop to prison. One was visibly breaking down and crying during the reading of verdict.

The Judge and the Prosecutors, I hope, will burn in hell for what they did. They gambled on the overcharge and won a ticket to political office in Liberal LaLa Land.


80 posted on 12/24/2021 2:37:42 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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