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China is fuelling global inflation | Beijing is hoarding 50% of global food supplies
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Posted on 12/25/2021 11:11:46 AM PST by Eleutheria5

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To: Owen

Chocolate bars? Twinkies?
Well nothing lasts forever. But those seem to hold up for a lifetime.


21 posted on 12/25/2021 12:14:36 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: hillarys cankles

Agree.


22 posted on 12/25/2021 12:15:30 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: Eleutheria5

China is fuelling global inflation | Beijing is hoarding 50% of global food supplies

They are a net importer of food.

They don’t have capability to do this...


23 posted on 12/25/2021 12:17:14 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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Pioneers had game. Live food. When food is alive, its immune system prevents rot.

Drying meat is not forever. For sure 100s of techniques for preservation were invented. The rats appreciated it.

The US west got populated mostly by Tuberculosis. Go West, Young Man!!! Because a study out of upstate NY informed the world that fresh air could extend life 10 yrs and brochures from western cities were printed and sent east.

If you want to dig deep, you’ll find rather a lot of pioneer stories that end with a return east. All it takes is one bad crop year. One invasion of deer. Or rats. Always the rats.

There are great studies that don’t immerse themselves in some attitude of yankee know how or American exceptionalism. They just look at math. If you’re in a situation that requires you to care about this stuff, you ain’t gonna have gasoline or electricity. F O R E V E R. You aren’t trying to survive 2 weeks until the power comes back on. This is FOREVER.

Think hardtack and pemmican saves the day? The rats will be grateful.

If you plan a survival compound, get walnut trees started. They take 8 years to yield, but once they do they generate the highest calorie total per acre of any plant. The acre issue is critical. You have to walk out there and gather the nuts. No gasoline. No power.


24 posted on 12/25/2021 12:18:23 PM PST by Owen
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To: PIF; Freee-dame; EBH; TexasGurl24
The links are broken. So I did my own research.

China produces a lot of agricultural products but they also have 1bn+ citizens. In fact I read that about 300MM of the Chinese workforce is focused on agriculture. That doesn't ipso facto mean they're driving up global food prices. Also, they are a massive producer of rice, while America isn't a massive rice consumer.

In addition, America remains a net exporter of agricultural products Most of our trade is with Canada and Mexico and the EU. The US remains an importer of specialty goods such as coffee/cocoa/spices and fish/shellfish products as well as fresh fruits and fruit juices and almost a third of wine and sugar.

Sounds like hysteria.

25 posted on 12/25/2021 12:24:28 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Eleutheria5

Sounds highly unlikely.


26 posted on 12/25/2021 12:24:36 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: Owen
Pioneers had game. Live food. When food is alive, its immune system prevents rot.

During times like these and possibly upcoming, there's a positive issue of living out in the country out West walking distance from millions of acres of unpopulated area full of game.

27 posted on 12/25/2021 12:24:48 PM PST by redcatcherb412
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To: RoosterRedux

“I hope they’re not hoarding bananas. They’ll be disappointed in a couple of days.”

I hope they are! It’ll serve them right if they’re eating banana bread for a year!


28 posted on 12/25/2021 12:26:53 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: glorgau

Canned food is forever. Freeze drying works, too.


29 posted on 12/25/2021 12:27:43 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Owen

Rat ona stick.
With catsup.😏


30 posted on 12/25/2021 12:41:38 PM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: Owen

Yes, you can’t survive FOREVER on a finite supply of stored food. Most people won’t try. Even most survivalists don’t plan for more than a year or two, and lots of stuff will last that long.

And I don’t know about your house, but mine does not have a rat problem. Occasional field mice, no rats. For garage storage, 5 gallon plastic drums work well, steel trash cans work better, and large surplus steel ammo cans are air right and hold a lot.


31 posted on 12/25/2021 12:43:28 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Oh heavens. Your house or my house is zero significance.

99.9% of people can’t survive in place. When water disappears from the pipes, humans disappear from the house.

Factoid: There are no rats in the province of Alberta. They kill them at the border. Amazing effectiveness.


32 posted on 12/25/2021 12:53:24 PM PST by Owen
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To: DoodleBob

America remains a net exporter of agricultural products ... The US remains an importer of specialty goods such as ... fish/shellfish products

On the other hand why do we import agricultural products? Answer : we export more grains because its more profitable. What we eat is imported. Therefore, the US is a net importer of FOOD.

Whatever that report says, actually China is facing food shortages along with many other food related problems.

We used to be a net exporter of fish and shellfish, before most of the commercial fishing industry was regulated, one way or another, out of business or deliberately made inefficient and not as profitable.

We gave away most of the most productive grounds to foreign fleets on the premise that foreigners pay more for the fish in licensing fees than US fleets pay in their landing taxes. Sooner or later some US government will sell the US Bering Sea fisheries to China for the same reason.


33 posted on 12/25/2021 12:54:15 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Eleutheria5

Costal China already imports 60% of their calories.

Also, the natural gas shortage has shutdown fertilizer plants around the globe. Russia, China, Holland, the UK and Egypt have all quit exporting fertilizer.

1/2 of 3rd world agricultural depends upon imported fertilizer. Next year’s harvest will be poor. The following year will be catastrophic.


34 posted on 12/25/2021 12:56:20 PM PST by MattMusson (Sometimes the wind blows too much)
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To: Eleutheria5

Where is the data that shows China has that much food stored? They can’t grow or raise 50% of the world’s supply of food and I can’t believe countries would sell that much of their food supply to China.


35 posted on 12/25/2021 12:58:48 PM PST by antidemoncrat (somRead more at: https://economicti Astronomers see white dwarf 'switch on and off' for first time)
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To: FLvoter

Yes. Chinese as preppers? They’re very likely to bring on the event that requires prepping, and they know darn well that they are vulnerable to food shortages.


36 posted on 12/25/2021 1:01:38 PM PST by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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To: Owen

And millions of Mormons laugh right back. They’re supposed to keep a years worth of food on hand. It won’t last forever, but it doesn’t need to.


37 posted on 12/25/2021 1:02:59 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Cultural separation and divorce. Not partisan politics.)
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To: Vendome

Why not? You don’t need to produce something to corner a market. E.g. the Hunt brothers with silver.

The CCP has been telling it’s people to store food for awhile now.


38 posted on 12/25/2021 1:09:12 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Cultural separation and divorce. Not partisan politics.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Mmmmm, no. Made up BS. How would they even get half the food? Hokum. Really, use your head. Hats aren’t fashionable anymore.


39 posted on 12/25/2021 1:10:43 PM PST by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: JD_UTDallas

Read about the SS Bertrand which sank on the Missouri river in 1865 and was excavated more than 100 years later.
It was like a floating Walmart and had tons of food inside as well.
All the preserved food was edible... maybe not very tasty, but edible.


40 posted on 12/25/2021 1:15:41 PM PST by djf ("Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out!")
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