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To: RoosterRedux

Putin apparently sees it as his historic mission to reestablish the Russian Empire. Crimea came first, next the rest of Ukraine. If Finland has any sense they will promptly join NATO if Ukraine is invaded.


2 posted on 01/02/2022 11:12:49 AM PST by devere
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To: devere

“If Finland has any sense they will promptly join NATO if Ukraine is invaded.”

Yeah, and if the US has any sense it would withdraw from NATO.

NATO is of no benefit to the US at all, ever.

And it’s a major national security liability.


7 posted on 01/02/2022 11:17:52 AM PST by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: devere

Gee, I can’t wait to send Johnny from Peoria to Finland to fight the Russians


14 posted on 01/02/2022 11:36:13 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Eat the Rich)
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To: devere

Utter bulls#it.

Crimea was part of Russia since Catherine the Great took it from the Ottomans in 1783.

Khrushchev transferred it to Ukraine in a deal for political support after the death of Stalin in the 1950s. This would be like a presidential candidate giving Long Island to Connecticut for electoral college votes. New York would never accept this.

In 1990, Sec State James Baker promised Gorbachev that if the Soviet military left Eastern Europe, NATO would NOT expand eastward. Baker promised “the Austrian solution,” a demilitarized and neutral Eastern Europe in return for Soviet force withdrawal.

America and NATO broke this agreement, now NATO extends from Estonia to Romania.

Ukraine is Russia’s final red line. We ignore this geopolitical reality at our own peril.


19 posted on 01/02/2022 11:49:30 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: devere

Putin wants to recreate or re constitute the USSR, and instal himself as the head of the Communist Party Soviet Union. It would also recreate the KGB.


28 posted on 01/02/2022 1:10:40 PM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: devere
Crimea came only after the Ukrainian revolution that resulted in Ukraine, with our approval, trying to cut Russia off from access to the Black Sea. The revolution alienated people in Crimea, who willing agreed to join Russia.

Obama and Soros were behind all of it.

Your spin is what is propaganda.

50 posted on 01/02/2022 3:28:26 PM PST by Kazan
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To: devere

I deny this article. I think it is a neocon psyop.


56 posted on 01/02/2022 4:59:28 PM PST by impimp ( )
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To: devere
If Finland has any sense they will promptly join NATO if Ukraine is invaded.

That would be a provocation for Russia to invade Finland. I doubt that Americans want to go to war with Russia. It would be mutually assured destruction of two nations that were allies in both world wars.
58 posted on 01/02/2022 5:07:37 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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