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F-35 Crash Off Carl Vinson Is the Ship's 5th Major Mishap in 2 Months
https://www.military.com ^ | 25 Jan 2022 | -- Konstantin Toropin

Posted on 01/27/2022 2:49:45 AM PST by 11th_VA

An F-35C Lightning II fighter suffered "a landing mishap" on the deck of the USS Carl Vinson in the South China Sea on Monday. It left seven sailors injured while the pilot safely ejected and was later recovered, the Navy confirmed, marking the fifth major mishap aboard the deployed carrier since late November.

Between Nov. 22 and Tuesday, Carrier Air Wing 2 reported four other major incidents involving aircraft. Naval Safety Center data shows that the first incident, which occurred Nov. 22, was an in-flight engine fire aboard an F/A-18E Super Hornet that was able to land successfully.

Two days later, a MH-60R Seahawk helicopter "unexpectedly" lost its sonar dipping equipment while conducting a training flight. The third incident happened Nov. 29 and involved another F/A-18E Super Hornet. That time, an issue with the plane's left engine forced its pilot to shut it down and land using the other, good engine. Finally, on Dec. 31, a CMV-22B had an engine fire while on the Carl Vinson's deck.

When asked about the string of mishaps, Navy spokesman Lt. Nicholas Lingo said, "All five incidents remain under investigation, and we cannot speak to any pattern until the investigation concludes."

According to the Navy, the pilot was rescued by a U.S. military helicopter and is in stable condition. Of the seven injured sailors, three required medevac to a medical treatment facility in Manila, Philippines, and four were treated aboard the aircraft carrier. Lingo said that two of the evacuated sailors are in stable condition; one is in critical condition. One sailor is still being treated aboard the carrier; the other three have been released, he added.

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How’s that CRT training working out ?
1 posted on 01/27/2022 2:49:45 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

The Navy wants to weaponize your own voice against you

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/the-navy-wants-to-weaponize-your-own-voice-against-you/ar-AAMRbpb?ocid=a2hs


2 posted on 01/27/2022 2:56:33 AM PST by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: 11th_VA

They need to test their crew chiefs...

(Of course, in today’s military, this may be the best they have :P )


3 posted on 01/27/2022 3:04:56 AM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: 11th_VA

4 posted on 01/27/2022 3:07:52 AM PST by ClearCase_guy ("If you see something, say something"? I see people dying from vaccines.)
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To: 11th_VA

Engine fires...a pattern? Sabotage comes to mind...or seriously incompetent maintenance crews.


5 posted on 01/27/2022 3:15:50 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Democrat Biden...we are sore...we don't want no Ukraine war!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

IMHO, that’s exactly what the problem is. The Village People are trying to run the military and they haven’t a clue.


6 posted on 01/27/2022 3:29:50 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (You can vote your way into socialism but you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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To: mdmathis6

The Vinson carrier group has been on a large scale excercise since 8 Aug 2021. Might be a factor.

https://www.surfpac.navy.mil/Media/News/Article/2726103/carl-vinson-carrier-strike-group-joins-large-scale-exercise-2021/


7 posted on 01/27/2022 3:30:23 AM PST by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: 11th_VA

Who’s the COMMANDER??


8 posted on 01/27/2022 3:51:39 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: mdmathis6

Engine fires...a pattern? Sabotage comes to mind...or seriously incompetent maintenance crews.


Sounds like the F-35 missed the wire or almost got it and lost control before careening into people.

Sabotage by dykes fighting, incompetence, lack of training, bad officers - my vote.


9 posted on 01/27/2022 3:52:53 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Ann Archy

Who’s the COMMANDER??

doesn’t matter all navy skippers (commanders) receive only OJT, which may or may not teach them all they need to know ; the navy did away with skipper command school in cost cutting move a decade or more ago.


10 posted on 01/27/2022 3:56:20 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: 11th_VA
This old Army guy knows nothing about the Navy but I've watched many of those videos of carrier flight deck operations on youtube (I love ‘em). Seems to me that “incidents” of that sort absolutely shouldn't be happening. Poor training? Poor leadership? All you carrier vets should weigh in here.
11 posted on 01/27/2022 4:02:17 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: Bikkuri

For the past ten years the U.S. Navy has suffered one disaster after another. There is something terribly wrong with its leadership,just as there is something terribly wrong with the U.S. Naval Academy.


12 posted on 01/27/2022 4:06:11 AM PST by Bookshelf
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What could possibly be wrong with the Academy? The Big Guy just appointed a transgendered dude as Commander!
13 posted on 01/27/2022 4:12:23 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: mdmathis6

“Engine fires...a pattern? Sabotage comes to mind...or seriously incompetent maintenance crews.”

Slow down.

All of us who work high pressure Jet Fuel or Kerosene burring equipment know the hoses and seals wear out and leak from the out side in places one cannot visually inspect. The vibration level on aircraft is why just about any fastener is safety wired or marked so it be seen when it rattle out. Jets are not Kenworths or Deere you cannot fire them up and just let them run for 2 hours in the parking log to confirm nothing leaks. They pressize systems and let them sit for 15 minutes to see what happens, but the vibrations of a cat shot and a trap need a cat shot and a trap. We have 1000 19 to 23 year olds keeping about 70 aircraft flying at an operational pace land based units do not match. In the work up part of a carrier cruise the aircraft and deck equipment have generally just been overhauled, and then they are put in the most dificult enviroment other than launch to space, for 200 to 400 days strait. We are at the point even the F35s are returning from the service depot after significant overhauls. The engines on modern jet fighters are replaced for maintiance issues at least once every 300 hours, treated as a LRU (line replaceable unit), same a 1980s car radio. A fighter squadron deploys to a ship for a 9-18 month cruise. Every aircraft has at least one engine or major system it did not start the crusie with, replaced by NCOs with one very green officer “supervising”.

Lets remember what the hell is going on when a Supercarrier is workign up for a cruise or on station someplace interesting. Take a modern small city airport, drive it through a huricane, send it to pre war status, move it 20,000 miles on the ocean and manage it with just about 96% of people on board under the age of 25. Add nuclear weapons in the lockers, add explosives, add jet fuel, add a nuclear reactor supplied by the lowest bidder.

That one supercarrier does not burn to the waterline every decade is because of dedicated souls doing the best they can with the equipment and training supplied. There may be navy officers whos futures get remarkable changed over a rash of incidents, but that is typically a stememic human systems problem and not the poor kids inspecting aircraft before being rolled onto the lift.

Thirty Woke Training hours per year is not the problem for the kids, complexity of flying machines is a real problem. Lets not discount their task.


14 posted on 01/27/2022 4:27:53 AM PST by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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To: protoconservative

Well said, protonconservative. I’ll concur with my 3+ decades of military aviation service.


15 posted on 01/27/2022 4:36:01 AM PST by SakoL61R
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To: protoconservative

Outstanding!


16 posted on 01/27/2022 4:52:48 AM PST by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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To: protoconservative


Your post is wise, informative, and worth reading carefully.

Let us not, however, discount the handicapping effect, particularly on young minds, of a full court press, in training, on matters that have nothing at all to do with systems or operational readiness.

To that, add a gamut of flag officers chosen not for their ability to lead sailors, but preciselyfor their inability to select the correct head in which to take a piss.


17 posted on 01/27/2022 5:10:50 AM PST by golux
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To: Bookshelf

“For the past ten years the U.S. Navy has suffered one disaster after another. There is something terribly wrong with its leadership,just as there is something terribly wrong with the U.S. Naval Academy.”

This is exactly right.

But they are full speed ahead on Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.

Hence the disasters.


18 posted on 01/27/2022 5:14:00 AM PST by SharpenedEdge (Stockpile. Prepare. Arm. Train. A Storm is coming.)
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To: protoconservative

Lets not discount their task.“””

Exactly. Once the formidability of their task required that the Navy profile out the best person to participate in that task and get as many of them on line as they possibly could. But that ain’t the way it works anymore. “Woke” isn’t just 30 hours of training somewhere. A flightdeck force of the best-suited by experience based profiling wouldn’t be even remotely close to looking properly woke. Gender skin color and sexual deviation are as important to todays military as doing the best that they possibly could once was.


19 posted on 01/27/2022 5:37:20 AM PST by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: 11th_VA

Fish rot from the head.


20 posted on 01/27/2022 5:38:20 AM PST by Vision (Elections are one day. Reject "Chicago" vote harvesting. Election Reform Now. Obama is an evildoer.)
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