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To: beethovenfan

The problem with our “military” as you reference is NOT a matter of capability. It is a matter of will.

We “fight” conflicts under the rules of the State Department and left with goals that have little to do with the military.

The core purpose of a military is to impose your will in brutal and overwhelming fashion. Period. It is not to “nation build”, “occupy”, or promote Western values.

It exists to smash our enemies. Our leaders will not allow it to do so.

Just think..... we suffered few casualties in Iraq or Afghanistan until we decided to occupy and impose our values on them. We achieved the initial goals (minus Bin Laden) of smashing them and then it all turned to shit with contractors, occupation, and the money funnel.

What if we had just smashed them, left, and told them to clean it up or we would be back? How many lives would have been saved on both sides? How much wealth would not have been spent? How much better off would we have been?


9 posted on 02/01/2022 11:46:50 AM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: volunbeer; GideonOfWar
What if we had just smashed them, left, and told them to clean it up or we would be back? How many lives would have been saved on both sides? How much wealth would not have been spent? How much better off would we have been?

Hear! Hear!!!

To: GideonOfWar
Turkey denied us entry into Northern Iraq during the initial invasion to root out terrorist/al-qaeda from our SOF teams. Its time for a little payback.

I've been saying for some time that we should have flattened Iraq's and Afghanistan's infrastructure, killed their leaders, divided the countries along ethinic lines, set the ethnic groups at each other's throats, and walked away.

The take home message is: You F with us, we will track you, personally, down and kill your sorry arse, we will destroy everything you hold dear, and your country will simply cease to exist.

The bonus in this case is Turkey, who wouldn't help us, is rewarded with a newly minted Kurdistan on their border. That Iran also has to deal with a Kurdish homeland on their border is a bonus...

109 posted on 10/15/2007, 9:15:53 AM by null and void (Lib-uh-rulz can't foresee even the clearest consequences to their actions...)

10 posted on 02/01/2022 11:56:07 AM PST by null and void (81 million votes ≠ 81 million voters)
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To: volunbeer

I agree completely. It’s a matter of will. That was the essence of my comment.


17 posted on 02/01/2022 12:37:08 PM PST by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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