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What Do Ukraine and Wuhan Have in Common?
Townhall.com ^ | March 2, 2022 | Laura Hollis

Posted on 03/03/2022 7:26:49 AM PST by Kaslin

Campaigning politicians have always inflated their own importance and the benefits of the policies they espouse -- and exaggerated the perils of electing the other guy. It used to be the case that these self-aggrandizing stump speeches were tempered by a (mostly) diligent press that went out of its way to poke holes in those exaggerations and deflate egos with some sharply pointed facts. And Americans have historically trusted their elected leaders to tell the truth in matters of grave national importance.

No more. We are swimming in a cesspool of lies so fetid that it’s almost impossible to know what’s true anymore. This is a consequence of two political parties whose most visible and powerful members lie with impunity, and a national press that abandoned the pursuit of truth years ago in favor of pushing left-wing political propaganda.

Let’s take the current conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Is this nothing more than naked aggression by a larger country (Russia) run by an ex-KGB agent (President Vladimir Putin) who’s made no bones about wanting some (if not all) of the old Soviet territories back?

That’s the position being pushed by the Biden administration.

Putin, on the other hand, claims not only that parts (if not all) of Ukraine belong to Russia; he has intimated that the United States has been funding the development of possible biowarfare agents at laboratories in Ukraine, and that these pathogens could be used as weapons against Russia.

Until recently, most of us would have tended to believe the statements of our own government over the inflammatory accusations of a former Soviet strongman. But two-plus years of the COVID-19 pandemic has proven that our own government lies to us continuously and repeatedly.

In fact, the similarities between the “Ukraine biolabs” story and the theory that SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) emerged from the Wuhan Institute of Virology are remarkable.

When COVID-19 began spreading throughout China and the rest of the world, the “official” story was that the virus had jumped species (from bat to human, perhaps with an intermediary host) in a wet market in Wuhan. Very quickly, some writers pointed out that the city of Wuhan had an international virology institute. And that bat viruses were being studied at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And that scientists who worked at WIV had published papers in which they described genetically manipulating those viruses to see if they could be made to “jump species” (so-called gain of function research).

Immediately, these statements and the questions they raised were dismissed as “misinformation” or Chinese government propaganda. Broadcast and print media journalists refused to investigate the claims. Those who continued to ask questions were denounced as kooks or “conspiracy theorists.” Social media megacorporations Twitter, Facebook and YouTube removed content and shut down the accounts of anyone who tried to publish information about the “lab leak” theory. America’s COVID czar Dr. Anthony Fauci was consistently among the most vocal detractors of that theory.

But information continued to seep out. State Department memoranda from 2018 were discovered, warning that research into zoonotic bat viruses being conducted at the WIV lacked adequate safety protocols. Those memoranda mentioned funding by the National Institutes of Health and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, the organization run by Fauci. Fauci was called before Congress and insisted that the NIAID had never funded “gain of function” research. An October 2021 letter from the NIH proved that this was untrue; the NIAID and the NIH had funded gain of function research in Wuhan. Other documents -- including Fauci’s own emails -- obtained through Freedom of Information Act requests revealed that Fauci and other scientists were seriously evaluating the possibility that COVID-19 leaked from a Wuhan laboratory, even as they lied to the public and denied it.

What does any of this have to do with Ukraine?

A Washington Post article from 2005 opens with this statement: “The United States and Ukraine agreed yesterday to work jointly to prevent the spread of biological weapons, signing a pact that clears the way for Ukraine's government to receive U.S. aid to improve security at facilities where dangerous microbes are kept.” The two U.S. senators spearheading that initiative were Richard Lugar, a Republican from Indiana, and Barack 0bama, then a Democratic senator from Illinois.

So, “dangerous microbes” are at these Ukrainian laboratories, and the United States government has been providing funding. For what, exactly? To “improve security.”

This hardly inspires confidence.

Right on cue, here come the “official” statements. An article published last week in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists quotes Robert Pope, director of the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, a “30-year-old Defense Department program that has helped secure the former Soviet Union’s weapons of mass destruction and redirect former bioweapons facilities and scientists toward peaceful endeavors.”

According to Pope, “the labs in Ukraine are not bioweapons facilities ... (T)hey are public and animal health labs” that “conduct peaceful scientific research and disease surveillance.” Pope further insisted that all pathogens present at the Ukrainian laboratories were safe as long as they were kept frozen, but power outages caused by damage to the buildings (from warfare, for example) could pose a problem. Furthermore, the safety protocols of the Ukraine labs are not without concern. “They have more pathogens in more places than we recommend,” Pope said, in what sounds like a serious understatement.

Predictably, any suspicions about the work conducted in Ukrainian laboratories and funded by the U.S. government are now being dismissed as “disinformation.” Foreign Policy published an article yesterday insisting that the “Ukrainian lab bioweapons” claims are just “conspiracy theories” being advanced by (of course) the Russian and Chinese governments and (wait for it) QAnon supporters who are spreading misinformation on social media as part of the “dogma for the right wing of the Republican Party.”

Sound familiar?

So, what’s really going on in the Ukrainian laboratories? Who do you believe?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: allcovidallthetime; coronavirus; ukraine; ukrainecrisis
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1 posted on 03/03/2022 7:26:49 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Not allowed to question the official version of events without being called crazy?


2 posted on 03/03/2022 7:29:47 AM PST by Pxzftrnqfrn
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To: Kaslin

I tend to believe no one and chose to follow the money.


3 posted on 03/03/2022 7:30:29 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: Kaslin

I just came for the punch line.


4 posted on 03/03/2022 7:30:55 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Kaslin

I don’t doubt that our government is implicated in developing the virus. I still support the Ukrainians defending their homeland. Support for Ukrainians does not mean support for our criminals anymore than it does support for Russian criminals or Ukrainian criminals for that matter.


5 posted on 03/03/2022 7:31:42 AM PST by marron
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn

Precisely. Throw in Iraqi yellow cake uranium too.


6 posted on 03/03/2022 7:32:37 AM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Kaslin

The biolabs were the first thing the Russians took out. China and Russia have been complaining for some time that the US had a number of biological weapons research going on in countries that were on its borders, including those previously in the Soviet block. Our media which has rapidly devolved into Pravda has of course ignored this issue.


7 posted on 03/03/2022 7:37:10 AM PST by jimwatx
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To: Kaslin

Putin is just tossing all the justifications for going into Iraq out.


8 posted on 03/03/2022 7:37:43 AM PST by pas
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To: marron
I don’t doubt that our government is implicated in developing the virus. I still support the Ukrainians defending their homeland. Support for Ukrainians does not mean support for our criminals anymore than it does support for Russian criminals or Ukrainian criminals for that matter.

Damn good comment.

9 posted on 03/03/2022 7:41:30 AM PST by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: Kaslin
and a national press that abandoned the pursuit of truth years ago in favor of pushing left-wing political propaganda

My Tagline restated.

10 posted on 03/03/2022 7:47:51 AM PST by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: jimwatx

I presume when Russia “took the labs”, they didn’t use artillery?


11 posted on 03/03/2022 7:51:13 AM PST by Does so (Americans had no desire for war between 1939 and 1941. Rheinland? Sometimes War Finds YOU!)
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To: Does so

There wasn’t any reporting on it in the Western media that I saw, however I did see documents from that lab posted on the internet (presumedly by Russia) showing western support and financing for the lab. It’s not exactly a big secret.


12 posted on 03/03/2022 7:56:20 AM PST by jimwatx
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To: DannyTN

He’s in the Oval Office or a Delaware basement.


13 posted on 03/03/2022 7:58:31 AM PST by ro_dreaming (Joe Biden is the dementia riddled, no-filter grifter he's always been - just now, we get to see it.)
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To: Chuckster

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14 posted on 03/03/2022 8:01:54 AM PST by Chuckster (Friends don't let friends eat farmed fish)
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To: Kaslin
So, “dangerous microbes” are at these Ukrainian laboratories, and the United States government has been providing funding.

Stupid article that cites no evidence of bio-weapons research. According to these Russian inspired conspiracies the US has "bio-weapons" research labs in every foreign country.

Russia claims US running secret bio weapons lab in Georgia(Country)

https://apnews.com/article/public-health-north-america-health-ap-top-news-in-state-wire-0cf158200e674f41bd3026133e5e043d

U.S. military labs secretly develop biological weapons in Kazakhstan: report. It's alleged that the labs are developing bio-weapons for use

https://www.bjreview.com/World/202005/t20200526_800207420.html

15 posted on 03/03/2022 8:04:06 AM PST by tlozo
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To: Kaslin

They’re both psyops that the Regime is running and which even a bunch of conservatives (who really ought to know better) are falling for?


16 posted on 03/03/2022 8:06:57 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (I'd rather have one king 3000 miles away that 3000 kings one mile away)
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To: Kaslin

Covid fear dying down, Russian Nuke fear ramping up.

Still: FEAR, FEAR, FEAR


17 posted on 03/03/2022 8:17:58 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: Kaslin

That’s WHY there is no retaliation against the PRCs, we FUNDED the FungYouFlu! We/US are complicit!


18 posted on 03/03/2022 8:53:49 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Kaslin

You seem to believe anther one of Putin’s excuses, for which all you seem to need are the innuendos and their related claims that have no material evidence.


19 posted on 03/03/2022 9:10:21 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Kaslin
What Do Ukraine and Wuhan Have in Common?

That's a timely question. Here is another one:
"What do Biden and Wuhan have in common?"
(Best answer: They both launched an attack on America's economy.

20 posted on 03/03/2022 9:12:19 AM PST by frog in a pot (How quickly did Biden start killing our economy? Before the end of his first day in office.)
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