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Army Col (Ret) MacGregor: U.S. Should "Stop Shipping Weapons And Stop Encouraging Ukrainians To Die In A Hopeless Endeavor"
Real Clear Politics ^ | 27 Feb | Tim Hains

Posted on 03/05/2022 9:25:03 AM PST by xzins

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To: Guenevere

Biden is talking tough about Russia, while buying fuel from them and negotiating with Iran with them.

He’s playing you clowns who can’t think straight.


61 posted on 03/05/2022 10:16:54 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: xzins

Unfortunately most GOP politicians are not really on our side and will go to bat for the defense industry before ordinary average Americans.


62 posted on 03/05/2022 10:17:44 AM PST by SlipperySlope99
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To: A Navy Vet
I'm not willing to send American troops to die there either. It isn't their country.

But it is the Ukrainian's country, and if those people are willing to fight and die to defend it, I think we should give them any support we can short of that.

63 posted on 03/05/2022 10:17:45 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: Gen.Blather

I don’t trust joe biden even a little bit. I’d rather be led by my hound dog.


64 posted on 03/05/2022 10:17:54 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: xzins

I’m surprised they let him come back. Check out this exchange, between the Col and Stu Varney….

https://gettr.com/post/pyaw3a1181


65 posted on 03/05/2022 10:18:11 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: xzins

What would this clown say if he were alive during the American revolution?


66 posted on 03/05/2022 10:19:44 AM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans ( )
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To: xzins
There seems to be a curious phenomenon among some US defense and intel people where they have already decided that Europe is to be or should be divided into spheres of influence and the Ukrainians should just give up and recognize "reality."

Would you?

67 posted on 03/05/2022 10:20:08 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Guenevere
This is Wag the Dog folks! And we are the stooges!

The main stooges are the Ukrainian people. CIA Director Williams Burns has said publicly for 25 years, that discussion of Ukraine in NATO was a bright, shiny red-line for Russia - and not just Putin, but for all of Russia's government and for nearly all Russians.

So the US Government / NATO was never going to come to the aid of Ukraine - but it was going to prod, poke and encourage their puppets in Kiev to confront Russia. They have achieved their goal - an isolated Russia, and an EU back on the NATO/US plantation, control of EU energy supplies. A destroyed Ukraine is just an acceptable consequence.

68 posted on 03/05/2022 10:22:33 AM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

“When the owners fight, their slaves suffer.” - Ukrainian Saying


69 posted on 03/05/2022 10:24:33 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: xzins

So said the Brits to American’s back when.


70 posted on 03/05/2022 10:27:14 AM PST by SkyDancer ( I make airplanes fly, what's your super power?)
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To: dfwgator

Ukraine is South Central LA, and the USA and Russia are the Crips and the Bloods.


71 posted on 03/05/2022 10:29:27 AM PST by PGR88
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To: cgbg

The thing is, most Freepers view Russia as a school yard bully picking on the little guy. Ukraine didn’t bomb Russia, Ukraine was just sitting there minding its own business and Russia invaded. Did they want to join NATO? Sure, they had a bully breathing down their neck.

We will always stand behind the little guy because that’s how we started.


72 posted on 03/05/2022 10:29:37 AM PST by McGavin999 (To shut down the border tell the administration the cartel is smuggling Ivermectin )
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To: xzins

Retired Colonel Doug MacGregor: Surrender monkey urging Ukraine patriots to surrender their county under the theory of Better Red than Dead.


73 posted on 03/05/2022 10:29:56 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PGR88
There's no better way to reinvigorate NATO and likely expand its membership than for Russia to have invaded non-NATO Ukraine. Also will encourage the forward deployment of more NATO troops in Eastern European nations such as Poland and the Baltic States.

Given that this is such an obvious result, you have to wonder how genuine was Putin's professed concern about NATO expansion threatening Russia itself.

Here's an alternative theory: Putin had decided long ago that he wanted to reconstitute the USSR as much as possible. Invading Ukraine was always on the agenda, and he knew that if he didn't complete that conquest before Ukraine joined NATO, he might not get the chance.

This was never about Russia itself being threatened -- it was always about Russia's desire to expand.

74 posted on 03/05/2022 10:30:53 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: xzins
I guess Doug won't be the morale officer for the Ukrainian army.

5.56mm

75 posted on 03/05/2022 10:32:14 AM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Substitute Imperial Russia for USSR and we agree!


76 posted on 03/05/2022 10:33:08 AM PST by Reily
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To: xzins

Ukraine will get slaughtered. Unfortunately. But Putin will pay sometime.


77 posted on 03/05/2022 10:34:36 AM PST by rrrod (6)
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To: Reily
Substitute Imperial Russia for USSR and we agree!

Sure. The concept is really the same in that the USSR certainly was driven by Russian (as opposed to just Communist) Imperialism as well.

The argument that Russia felt "threatened" is simply ridiculous. An alliance that Putin knew was unwilling even to defend Ukraine certainly wasn't going to be willing to invade Russia itself.

He just knows that NATO membership acts as a limit on Russian expansionism, and he wants to expand. Simple as that.

78 posted on 03/05/2022 10:37:46 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: rrrod

In my opinion, this is Russia’s last gasp, either way this probably is the end of Russia as a major power. I base it on the belief that even a “victory” in Ukraine will be the “Mother of all Pyrrhic Victories.”

My question is, who rises to take advantage of it? My money is on Turkey.


79 posted on 03/05/2022 10:39:23 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Fido969

“Biden is talking tough about Russia, while buying fuel from them and negotiating with Iran with them.

He’s playing you clowns who can’t think straight.”

Correct.

It is equally important to understand that the Democrats have decimated US oil and energy production while creating massive domestic inflation.

Putin didn’t do that.

My enemy is someone who seeks to harm me.

That is the Democrats, not Putin.


80 posted on 03/05/2022 10:40:12 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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