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Durham filing raises prospect history might have changed if Clinton lawyer hadn't lied
Juat the News ^ | March 6, 2022 - | John Solomon

Posted on 03/07/2022 8:04:33 AM PST by george76

Prosecutor suggests FBI might not have proceeded with key part of Russia probe if Michael Sussmann had told the truth.

It was an allegation that dogged Donald Trump for three years: a claim the Republican nominee-turned-president had a secret backdoor communications channel with the Kremlin. Repeated endlessly by the liberal media, the allegation was never true.

Now, Special Counsel John Durham is raising the tantalizing specter the FBI might never have investigated the claim during the height of the 2016 presidential election if the man who brought it to the bureau — Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann — had told the truth about its origins.

In his latest court filing this weekend, Durham gave his most sweeping assessment yet about the consequences of Sussmann hiding the fact that he brought the allegation to the FBI on behalf of the Clinton campaign and a computer executive aligned with the campaign.

"Had the defendant truthfully informed the FBI General Counsel that he was providing the information on behalf of one or more clients, as opposed to merely acting as a 'good citizen,' the FBI General Counsel and other FBI personnel might have asked a multitude of additional questions material to the case initiation process," Durham told the court in a memo filed late Friday.

"Given the temporal proximity to the 2016 U.S. presidential election, the FBI also might have taken any number of different steps in initiating, delaying, or declining the initiation of this matter had it known at the time that the defendant was providing information on behalf of the Clinton campaign and a technology executive at a private company," he added.

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Sussmann is accused of lying to the FBI by claiming he was not working on behalf of any clients when he fed then-FBI General Counsel James Baker allegations the GOP nominee had a secret computer channel to the Kremlin.

Sussmann recently asked the judge in his case to dismiss a charge of lying to the FBI, arguing his alleged false statement to the FBI was not material to the case and was protected by the First Amendment.

Durham responded Friday with a sweeping rebuke of Sussmann's conduct, taking aim at his defense that his alleged lies were constitutionally protected speech

"Far from finding himself in the vulnerable position of an ordinary person whose speech is likely to be chilled, the defendant — a sophisticated and well-connected lawyer — chose to bring politically-charged allegations to the FBI's chief legal officer at the height of an election season," Durham wrote the judge.

"He then chose to lie about the clients who were behind those allegations," he added. "Using such rare access to the halls of power for the purposes of political deceit is hardly the type of speech that the Founders intended to protect. The Court should therefore reject defendant's invitation to expand the scope of the First Amendment to protect such conduct."

Durham also revealed that he plans to deliver testimony at trial from several FBI and government witnesses that Sussmann's false statement was material and relevant and could have influenced the course of the Russia collusion case.

"The expected testimony of multiple government witnesses will refute the defendant's argument that the defendant's false statement was immaterial," Durham wrote. "As noted above, the government expects that current and former FBI employees will testify at trial that understanding the origins of data and information is relevant to the FBI in multiple ways, including to assess the reliability and motivations of the source.

"None of this is novel. An evaluation of a source can (and often does) influence the FBI's decisions regarding its initial opening decisions and subsequent investigative steps. That alone is sufficient to establish materiality."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2020election; cia; clinton; clintonlawyer; doj; durham; election2016; election2020; fbi; hillary; hillaryclinton; lied; michaelsussmann; russia; sussmann
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1 posted on 03/07/2022 8:04:33 AM PST by george76
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Prosecutor suggests FBI might not have proceeded with key part of Russia probe if Michael Sussmann had told the truth.

NOT A CHANCE. The FBI wanted an excuse to spy on Trump and Sussman gave them the cheap cover they needed in case the whole scheme blew up (which it did). Just read Strzok's emails and see the lock-step deep-state thinking of everyone at FBI's highest levels. The FBI could have pulled the plug on the whole nonsense any time, but they did not.

2 posted on 03/07/2022 8:10:07 AM PST by PGR88
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To: george76

In the end poor old Sussmann will be holding the bag.


3 posted on 03/07/2022 8:10:56 AM PST by skeeter
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If Sussman ever goes into a cell, Epstein’s ghost will appear. There is NO way this turd goes quietly for anybody involved in the 2016 insurrection.


4 posted on 03/07/2022 8:15:55 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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Nope. The FIB was spying on the Trump campaign well before the Russia Pee-Pee Tapes dossier was given to them.

Bongino wrote an entire book on the timelines.

All the dossier did was to provide the official excuse for why the investigation into Trump was opened, but they were digging for dirt before the dossier was provided through Bruce Ohr and his wife Nellie Ohr who worked for Fusion GPS.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/dan-bongino-newly-released-fbi-documents-on-steele-dossier-fisa-applications-are-devastating

5 posted on 03/07/2022 8:16:09 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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So very strange.. a sitting Vice-President is up to his black eyeballs in Ukraine and justice sleeps. Justice then colluded with the party of lawlessness to frame an innocent man.. Defund justice.
6 posted on 03/07/2022 8:17:24 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: PGR88

Oh I see. The FBI and the DOJ had no idea who he was.


7 posted on 03/07/2022 8:17:44 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: PGR88

Exactly.


8 posted on 03/07/2022 8:18:02 AM PST by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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Let us hope Durham is just citing a logical possibility, because we know the FBI would stop at nothing.


9 posted on 03/07/2022 8:18:20 AM PST by Gratia
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10 posted on 03/07/2022 8:19:29 AM PST by bitt ( <img src=' 'width=50%>)
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"...the FBI also might have taken any number of different steps in initiating, delaying, or declining the initiation of this matter had it known at the time that the defendant was providing information on behalf of the Clinton campaign and a technology executive at a private company,"

What BS. The FBI, with all of its resources and power, didn't bother to check the provenance of the information? Come on. They knew.

11 posted on 03/07/2022 8:23:05 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If truckers quit their jobs, society would collapse. If politicians quit their jobs...HALLELUJAH!)
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If Sussman ever goes into a cell, Epstein’s ghost will appear. There is NO way this turd goes quietly for anybody involved in the 2016 insurrection.

For enough money, his silence can be bought he can do a stretch in Club Fed.

12 posted on 03/07/2022 8:23:25 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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ALL of the federal agencies, FBI, CIA and DOJ included were weaponized by the Kenyanesian Usurper against Trump.

They had plenty of assistance from Assistant Democrats to keep the Trump/Russia collusion delusion going.

BOTH parties wanted Trump gone.

He was a threat to their 30 year bipartisan project to turn the USA into North Mexico.


13 posted on 03/07/2022 8:24:38 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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He’s covering for the FBIAS.


14 posted on 03/07/2022 8:25:24 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Jeff Chandler

right. they took his word for it and did not investigation of their own on the source and his relationships


15 posted on 03/07/2022 8:25:54 AM PST by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: george76

What if what if. What if my aunt grew balls, she’d be my uncle.


16 posted on 03/07/2022 8:27:51 AM PST by Swanks
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To: skeeter

SPJNK.


17 posted on 03/07/2022 8:31:47 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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I would like to see a case made that Donald Trump’s presidency was so maligned that it should be considered a non event and he be allowed to win two more terms. His first term was essentially stolen from him.


18 posted on 03/07/2022 8:36:04 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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It’s all a moot point at this stage. The 2020 Election and subsequent elections have been stolen from the American Citizens and there is nobody at all doing anything about it.


19 posted on 03/07/2022 8:36:36 AM PST by Howie66 (Let's Go Brandon!!)
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To: Sans-Culotte


'He's a good kid.'

'Eh....better safe than sorry.'
20 posted on 03/07/2022 8:38:23 AM PST by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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