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128 brigade captured the high-ranking staff of the 58th Russian army
128th Mountain Assault Brigade Facebook page. ^ | March 22, 2022 | Ukraine's 128th Mountain Assault Brigade

Posted on 03/22/2022 4:00:57 PM PDT by Widget Jr

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To: Justa

Looks like KGB.


having met many KGB guys, he looks like a mouse that got stepped on by a GRU guy.


61 posted on 03/23/2022 4:02:27 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Jamestown1630

Russian, if you are fluent (reading and speaking) in both, translates almost exactly to the English.


62 posted on 03/23/2022 4:17:34 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

He was 11 years old when the CCCP ceased to exist.


63 posted on 03/23/2022 5:24:16 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Widget Jr

You are only getting one side, entirely:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/07/technology/russia-ukraine-internet-isolation.html

A lot of what you are hearing is getting absurd, 7,000, 9,000, 13,000, 15,000 Russian dead... bla bla bla.

Yes, it’s one sided “propaganda” because I can assure you, the Russians are also taking prisoners, they are also killing folks, they are also seizing land... If you want to make lies believable, you need to at least appear as objective and neutral, but in this conflict you have blatant censorship (in the WEST!).

Growing up in the Cold War, we were exposed to propaganda, both from the West and East, but you at least had the chance to hear the other side, which today you do not get, despite 1,761 TV channels, Internet, smart phones... We are blind and deaf but completely flooded with one sided so-called news which in part is Government sponsored. That is “propaganda.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda


64 posted on 03/23/2022 6:12:20 AM PDT by Red6
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To: elpadre

Read my post 64.

If this were the Russians doing the same thing, this is the argument you would hear right now: It is wrong to use a POW like this in a psyop campaign.

This is more than just propoganda today. You have blatent censorship (turning off all .ru news/media)...


65 posted on 03/23/2022 6:20:41 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

I was going to look up exactly what sort of document the 2 April 1982 date is on. Its not a passport, nor a Russian mil ID

The lines the date is on is too indistinct to make out if that is birthday or initial service date. Maybe you fared better?


66 posted on 03/23/2022 6:24:44 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: buwaya

What are you not understanding?

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/07/technology/russia-ukraine-internet-isolation.html

We are blocking everything and exactly NOT doing what you claim we are/would.

For example, the Russians do casualty notification just like we do, i.e. next of kin is notified when someone dies... A few days ago while Western media were already at 2,000 to 4,000, the actual number was around 400 something. ~ 1/10 of what our media was pumping it up to. And yes, they were providing names etc. of the fallen, none of which is visible anymore and no, Western media was not providing any of this information. They were running with whatever they were being spoon fed from whatever sources (who knows?)...

There are usually two sides to an argument. Hearing both helps. You’re not getting that.


67 posted on 03/23/2022 6:28:38 AM PDT by Red6
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To: elpadre

My guess of what will happen.

You will wake up one morning and read about how peace was negotiated.

Ukraine will agree to no NATO membership, so will the West, which is what we did in 2014 but lied about.

So after weeks or months or hearing how Russia was defeated, how they lost 150,000 soldiers, everyone deserted, morale is low, supply shortages, and all their generals being killed, maybe just out of our “benevolence,” (because we’re nice guys like that) Ukraine and the West will agree to the Russian’s terms/conditions.

But no worries, we’ll declare victory anyhow!

We shall see.


68 posted on 03/23/2022 7:09:38 AM PDT by Red6
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To: PIF

If he joined the army in 1982 he’d have to be close to 60 years old now. If he joined on December 25, 1991, the last day the Soviet Union existed, he’d have to be almost 50. He’s too young.

I can see the Russians printing up a billion dog tags and using old ones because they’re still in stock.


69 posted on 03/23/2022 7:21:18 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

Still, without knowing exactly which ID that is, its is speculation as to his birth date. Maybe he is 60. By his looks he could be - certainly in his 50s.


70 posted on 03/23/2022 7:42:07 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Red6
A lot of what you are hearing is getting absurd, 7,000, 9,000, 13,000, 15,000 Russian dead... bla bla bla.

Komsomolskaya Pravda, the pro-Kremlin tabloid, says that according to Russian ministry of defense numbers, 9,861 Russian soldiers died in Ukraine and 16,153 were injured

Russia reveals it has had 'almost 10,000 soldiers killed with another 16,000 injured' as satellite photos show Putin's forces digging in around Kyiv and 'planting mines' in sign that their advance has stalled

What we know about Russia's death toll in Ukraine

Russia's state run tabloid ran their casualty figures then deleted them within 24 hours. They got those numbers from Russian sources, not American sources.

71 posted on 03/23/2022 8:52:14 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr
Wrong!

That was a hack job, i.e. the numbers were not put there by their media.

CNN and others re-posted it, which they promptly deleted when it was figured out that it's a “hack job.”

You are re-posting discredited information that can be readily found. Why is that?

72 posted on 03/23/2022 9:02:34 AM PDT by Red6
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To: PIF

Well, I meant the failings of the machine translators.


73 posted on 03/23/2022 9:11:23 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Red6
That was a hack job, i.e. the numbers were not put there by their media.

The Komsomolskaya Pravda article had the numbers in it when it was first put online. After social media caught on, then the numbers were removed. That is called "editing", not "hacking".

You are re-posting discredited information that can be readily found. Why is that?

Discredited where, by who? I'm linking to sources, what are your sources? What do you consider credible or in this case?

74 posted on 03/23/2022 9:29:33 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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Well that is the only plausible reason you could give.

We were always told the Russians never get rid of anything.

75 posted on 03/23/2022 9:52:13 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: PIF
I was impressed to find that Taxi is Такси (Taksi) in Russian.

Half of the world calls tea, Cha.   Well so do the Russians, чай (chay).

76 posted on 03/23/2022 9:58:29 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Widget Jr
Excuse me but you seem not to realize that long before computers and hacking them was a thing, questionable or irresponsible journalism was called a “hack job.”   That refers back to when demolishing something was often done by hacking it up with a hatchet.   A “hack job” has nothing to do with hacking.
77 posted on 03/23/2022 10:11:04 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: higgmeister

Pardon my misunderstanding. Komsomolskaya Pravda said their site was hacked, that means computer hacking. As far as the numbers being a journalistic hack job, KP is a state run tabloid running what the Russian communist party wants people to hear. The Russian government does not want bad news about the invasion getting out. It is really hard to believe those casualty figures got past editors and political checks by accident.


78 posted on 03/23/2022 10:24:09 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: higgmeister

I was more or less talking about the grammar and sentence structure in a translation


79 posted on 03/23/2022 10:30:19 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Widget Jr
https://thehill.com/policy/international/599228-russian-newspaper-accuses-hackers-of-planting-fake-report-on-military

https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-death-toll-komsomolskaya-hackers/31765465.html

When someone takes over your web-page and puts things on there that you did not intend, that's not editing.

But I get it. Anything which sounds good must be the truth. Anything that doesn't is enemy propaganda.

80 posted on 03/23/2022 11:04:44 AM PDT by Red6
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