Lesson: NEVER give up your warheads & other armaments.
Posted on 04/15/2022 6:06:41 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
“While I think most of the pro-Putin FReepers are libertarians”
Those who base their foreign policy on morality/emotions will see neutrality as “pro Putin”.
By war supporter I mean those hat think our men should die for Ukrainian freedom.
Hopefully, get theirs in the air before the Russians’ land. Ain’t that a cheery thought. There is a hope that Putty is bluffing in the hopes that the West will get down on their knees and offer him head. The West is pretty gutless, but hopefully some of them know how to call a bluff. Worst case scenario, Putty is not bluffing, and the missiles fly on both sides. OK. That’s been a possibility for seventy plus years.
There’s a novel in that, Sum of All Fears by Tom Clancy, but it involved Israel and terrorists, not Russia and Ukraine. Same difference, though. Never finished the novel. Anybody?
and so witty.
I feel giddy and pretty and GAY!!!
And so Those who base their foreign policy on immorality will see not neutrality as “pro Putin” but be so, supporting a censorious oppressive persecuting power-hungry invasive dangerous dictator which those who base their foreign policy on morality oppose, as they do liberals?
Lesson: NEVER give up your warheads & other armaments.
Didn't GOD already declare that linguista non grata?
Do-gooder foreign policy kills.
Every time.
Yes a two headed sturgeon means more meat
Meaning do-evil foreign policy is good. And by excessively (beyond merely deterrence and humanitarian aid) helping an evil-doer in the interest of stopping another evil-doer then the US has been fighting proxy wars with the fruit of such for alliance with evil for decades.
You confuse acts of war with evil
Isolationists posing as do-gooders get nations killed
“Meaning do-evil foreign policy is good. “
You want it to mean that. But it doesn’t.
It means when foreign policy is conducted solely on the basis of what one perceives as good and evil, one is certain to commit evil in pursuit of one’s “good” objective.
There are multiple examples in the modern era.
Foreign policy should be conducted to pursue the real interests of the nation. Exclusively.
Anything else is naive.
Also halts global warming, since you will glow in the dark and won’t need lightbulbs.
If George Soros was for looking both ways before crossing busy streets, would you blindly run across to keep him from winning? You might have noticed that Elon Musk and Donald Trump are also rooting for Ukraine. Are they Soros stooges, too? He’s not the arbiter of virtue and goodness, just another billionaire with an opinion.
George Soros is virtue signaling, just like Nanshy and Foe Brandon (Juck him!) They’re dragging their feet on real aid for Ukraine, while publicly shouting “Slava Ukraina”! Fortunately, other central and European countries realize that the real enemy is Putin, and not George Soros or the Azov Battalion (may they both rot), so Ukraine is doing better while Putin plays Keystone Globocop. Elon Musk is giving material help in the form of unjammable internet. Soros is rich enough to buy VZ all the toys he needs to fight Putin, but he only talks the talk.
1. Which country was Ukraine a member of in 1988?
2. Who was behind the 2014 proxy coup in Ukraine that deposed a democratically elected President? Were you protesting then?
3. Why do you trust the global depopulationist oligarchy backing Ukraine?
These are the same people behind the global biological warfare attack and economic destruction of the plandemic.
These are the same people behind the Great Reset plan to starve 90% of the world’s population while they live comfortably in their well-stocked New Zealand escape compounds waiting for the “useless eaters” to be dead.
These are the same people flooding our country with third-world primitive “migrants” who are going to be roaming the countryside like a swarm of locusts when the supply chain sputters to a halt and the grocery store shelves are empty in the very not-too-distant future.
I know one thing for certain: if you support these people, you deserve everything they have planned for you, and you are going to get it.
1. The Soviet Union, along with several other independent countries that are now happily out of that hellish monstrosity.
2. The “democratically elected President” lied to the voters and promised to sign a commercial compact with the EU, then renegged on it and signed one with Russia.
3. Stalin depopulated by Ukraine by a total of five million between 1930 and 1945. He sent Jewish party members to do the dirty work, and the innocent Jewish shtetl dwellers bore the brunt of the back-lash when Hitler made his move. Stalin intended them as the target of the back-lash, but did not figure on the whole invasion thing.
You make allegations of a cabal of depopulators backing Ukraine. If anything, a putative global depopulator would want Ukraine destroyed utterly. It is rich farmland, which depopulators would want reduced to nuclear slag.
Funny thing about conspiracy theorists. They are always convinced that the people they hate are behind the “conspiracy”. Leftards believe in conspiracy theories with the Coke Brothers, Trump, the GOP or BREXIT proponents behind it. Right-wingers believe it’s Soros, communists and globalists, etc. I say a pox on both their houses. G-d is behind every leaf that trembles on a tree, and anyone trying to conspire to take over the world is just pathetic. Remember Pinky and the Brain from Anamaniacs? From G-d’s eye, they’re all just egomaniacal mice.
Coke Brothers = Koch Brothers
Who are actually quite leftist on immigration - meaning for open borders! I think they lean libertarian otherwise.
And where did I express isolationism? Supporting a censorious oppressive, persecuting, power-hungry, invasive dangerous dictator - as well as liberalism (and false gospels) - is anti-Christ.
Your "Do-gooder foreign policy kills" provided no other alternative.
"It means when foreign policy is conducted solely on the basis of what one perceives as good and evil, one is certain to commit evil in pursuit of one’s “good” objective. There are multiple examples in the modern era. Foreign policy should be conducted to pursue the real interests of the nation. Exclusively. Anything else is naive." Actually you yourself are arguing according to the very principle you reprove, with your "doing good" being what you perceive as good is for real interests of the nation, which presumes that supporting evil can be good for the nation, and that it matters not that a nation itself is evil. However, presuming the nation is Biblically right and the war is just, then it is actually that of supporting evil that are resulted in fostering evil, Stalin being the prime example. Whereas failures in China, Korea and Vietnam were tactical, not due to intent, while defeating Japan and helping the UK and Israel in war were morally justified.
What "multiple examples in the modern era" do you have in mind in which foreign policy conducted solely on the basis of what one perceives as good and evil was certain to commit evil in pursuit of one’s good objective, due to that moral basis?
And it remains that supporting a censorious oppressive, persecuting, power-hungry, invasive dangerous dictator - as well as liberalism (and false gospels) - is anti-Christ. Yet if China attacked it unprovoked, then it would be right to provide aid for defensive purposes against an unjust invader. Likewise helping both against some hypothetical alien entity.
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