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Local Russian activists call for demolition of Polish Katyn memorial
The First News ^ | 4/15/2022 | ERJ

Posted on 04/15/2022 1:48:26 PM PDT by lodi90

Activists from the western Russian city of Smolensk have petitioned the country's parliament, the Duma, to demolish a symbolic memorial site to the Katyn massacre and a cemetery for its victims, Russian daily Kommersant has reported.

Images posted online showed heavy machinery, bearing the pro-war 'Z' and 'V' symbols, approaching the Katyn monument in an apparent bid to destroy it.

The memorial site and monument commemorate the Katyn Forest Massacre in western Russia, a series of mass executions of Polish POWs, mainly military officers and policemen, carried out by the Soviet NKVD security agency in April and May 1940. The killings took place at several locations, but the massacre is named after the Katyn Forest in western Russia, where some of the mass graves of the victims were first discovered.

Kommersant wrote the petition calls for the Katyn monument to be demolished but the graves of Polish victims to be left untouched. The signatories argued that Poland's position on the war in Ukraine justifies "the truth being set straight about Katyn."

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To: Lurker
Murder a few thousand Poles, blame the Germans, deny guilt for decades, oppress and murder the Polish people for half a century, and when they side with the country Russia attacks try to desecrate the graves of the people they murdered.

And the U.S. government and media propagandists kept that myth about German responsibility for the Katyn massacre alive for decades.

41 posted on 04/15/2022 4:21:52 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Mr. Potato Head ... Mr. Potato Head! Back doors are not secrets.")
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To: lodi90

I was told by a Polish worker that WWII the Poles fought the Germans for revenge and the Russians for pleasure. There is no love loss between the Poles and Russians. The Germans occupied the Katyn area in the summer, the Russians were there in the winter. The bodies had winter clothing, but it was the Russians who said the Germans did it, and it was a cold summer when they did, thus explaining why they had on winter uniforms. ???? Riiiight.


42 posted on 04/15/2022 4:32:17 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (In politicians we get what we deserve, usually the best that money can buy, guaranteed.)
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To: Alberta's Child

“And the U.S. government and media propagandists kept that myth about German responsibility for the Katyn massacre alive for decades.”

Do you have a point of some kind you’re trying to make? Because if you do you’ve failed.

L


43 posted on 04/15/2022 4:37:30 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: crz

Thanks for the recommendation. I will check it out.

I recommend the Soviet Film “Come and See”. It is about the attempted genocide and the brutal slaughter of the Belarusians by the Nazis. There were a number of Ukrainians who were involved in the atrocities.

Warning: The film is very brutal and a hard watch.

I don’t blame today’s Ukrainians for the Ukrainian crimes against the Belarusians. I don’t understand why any Slav would sympathize with the Nazis, considering the fact that Hitler considered the Slavs “subhumans”.


44 posted on 04/15/2022 5:12:59 PM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl (The fate of all mankind, I see, is in the hands of fools.- King Crimson)
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To: CrimsonTidegirl

Here is a link where a guy explains it better than I.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luFVfcW7yAE

The groups who did these crimes are the ones still in operation today. Stepan Bandera (sp) is considered a hero in the Ukraine by many.

And yes I saw “Come and See” a horrific film. There was ex German Army veterans (wehrmacht) who watched that and after the show was over they got up and told the whole audience that what they saw actually happened. And the scene where the cow got shot? They actually shot that cow..some of that film was done using live ammo.

Keep in mind. If Zelensky manages to get a cease fire and go through peace negotiations, these groups will NOT honor the cease fire. They’ll kill.


45 posted on 04/15/2022 5:46:49 PM PDT by crz
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To: CrimsonTidegirl

One more thing.

Go do a search on Armstrong Creek Wisconsin. I grew up near there and a good many of the Polish there got to heck out of Poland just after WW2. And they talked about all the horrific stuff that went on during that war. I would imagine all of them are gone now since they were up in age when I was around there.
These chest thumpers on here have no idea what they are talking about.


46 posted on 04/15/2022 5:51:49 PM PDT by crz
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To: Bringbackthedraft
The diaries and documents found on the bodies stopped in 1940.

When the Russians occupied the area.

The Germans overran the area in 1941.

Vasily Blokhin and his NKVD butchers didn't clean up that part of their mess.

Good news is that he drank himself to an early grave.

47 posted on 04/15/2022 5:56:08 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: NorseViking

Russian monuments? You mean statues of Lenin and stalin?


48 posted on 04/16/2022 12:48:59 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Vaden

As he posts from st Petersburg, he gives you an insight into Putin’s propaganda.


49 posted on 04/16/2022 12:51:45 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: crz

Thanks for the info about Armstrong Creek.


50 posted on 04/16/2022 1:54:54 PM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl (The fate of all mankind, I see, is in the hands of fools.- King Crimson)
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To: CrimsonTidegirl

Here is one that might interest you even more.

https://www.villageofpulaski.org/

Not far from Green Bay Wi.


51 posted on 04/16/2022 3:38:19 PM PDT by crz
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To: lodi90

The Grandfather of my ex’s high school friend is likely buried at Katyn.


52 posted on 04/16/2022 3:39:36 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: CrimsonTidegirl

If you are of interest and if you ever get the chance to experience the Walloon heritage-that is an area from Belgium, do the search on Namur WI or Brussels WI and Kermiss...Belgian heritage. Many still talk the original dialect around there, which is being lost in Belgium.

I have friends there and gull dang it! I never went to Kermiss as long as I knew those people.

I guess a person doesnt get outta there without being stuffed.

Best people.

Around Fremont WI along Lake Butte de Morts, there used to be still Cajun people living. Years ago though and one had to get right down along the water where they lived. I suppose they cleared them all out now for the people to build their fancy places. I never messed around down there much because I didnt want to become bait for catfish.


53 posted on 04/16/2022 4:45:01 PM PDT by crz
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To: crz

Took me awhile to get to this but I am halfway through Wolyn. Excellent movie so far. Intense, needed to take a break. Thanks again for link.


54 posted on 04/25/2022 5:46:06 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: MomwithHope

I like to at least consider all angles. And there was so many atrocities committed by so many in that war.

Come and See, and this one are about the only couple movies that really worked on my conscience...and I have watched a lot of war movies.

Both were made with input by people who actually experienced it. This movie being that my wife’s good friend experienced it.

I suspect that we will get to see more since the fall of the USSR people are finally starting to talk.


55 posted on 04/25/2022 7:01:58 PM PDT by crz
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To: crz

I am some more but am calling it a night. Right after she looks in the bucket. It’s so good I don’t know if I can call it acting.


56 posted on 04/25/2022 7:06:49 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: crz

As in the closing credits said in “Come and See”, over 600 Belarussian villages suffered the same fate during the war.


57 posted on 04/25/2022 7:13:14 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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