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Western Weapons in Ukraine Being Sold On via Encrypted Messaging App: Report
Breitbart ^ | 14 May 2022 | CHRIS TOMLINSON

Posted on 05/14/2022 11:59:08 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Weapons said to be for sale include not just Ukrainian-origin arms such as old Soviet-era AK-47 rifles, but also American-made rifles like the M16 and the M4, along with other NATO member-origin firearms like the ARX 160 A1 manufactured by the Italian weapons company Beretta, newspaper Il Giornale reports.

It remains unclear whether the weapons are being sold by Ukrainians or by Russians who have collected them over the course of the war.

Canadian NGO Project Ploughshares warned earlier this year of the possibility that arms from the West could end up on the black market, with researcher Kelsey Gallagher saying there was a “real threat that the Ukrainian government can potentially not control all of these weapons.”

According to Il Giornale, the illegal arms trade often runs along the same routes as the illegal drug trade, noting that radical Islamic jihadist cells may be tempted to purchase weapons being sold through encrypted apps.

During the early days of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Islamic extremists called on jihadists to take advantage of the war, with the Islamic State terror organisation recommending supporters use the conflict to collect weapons that could be used in terror attacks, for example.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: blackmarket; ukraine; weapons
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1 posted on 05/14/2022 11:59:08 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

What is the name of the site, and I wonder how I can get them back in the USA?


2 posted on 05/14/2022 12:05:00 PM PDT by tanstaafl.72555
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It remains unclear whether the weapons are being sold by Ukrainians or by Russians who have collected them over the course of the war.

Who could have possibly predicted this?

3 posted on 05/14/2022 12:09:08 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: BenLurkin

Huh.

Who could have seen this coming?

Now we’ll get blackmailed again to keep the airlines flying.


4 posted on 05/14/2022 12:11:50 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: BenLurkin

How long before a US airliner is shot down over Germany by an Afghan refugee with an American MANPAD purchased from a corrupt Ukrainian corporal?


5 posted on 05/14/2022 12:12:03 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: BenLurkin

These are just the party favors.

The real deals are being done with bioweapon materials and research.
(And $40 Billion Aid kickbacks...)
(And dirt on politicians.)


6 posted on 05/14/2022 12:12:20 PM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see. #MAGAA)
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Not at all surprising! Both Ukraine AND Russia score high (or low, depending on your perspective) on Transparency International's '2021 CORRUPTION PERCEPTIONS INDEX'.
7 posted on 05/14/2022 12:18:13 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian ( Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us esse delendam)
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How long ago did we give the mujahedeen stingers to shoot down Russian warplanes? Forty years ago And I heard the same arguments against giving them as well.

How many airliners shot down by terrorists using stringers?

Zero!


8 posted on 05/14/2022 12:21:09 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Fu%k the Ballot box. Now the Cartridge Box)
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To: tanstaafl.72555
What is the name of the site, and I wonder how I can get them back in the USA?

Just pretend you're Hunter Biden, and the rest is easy. No hassles by the FBI.

9 posted on 05/14/2022 12:26:29 PM PDT by roadcat
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These does not appear to be any register of central accounting for all the weapons and dollars flowing into Ukraine from multiple sources. There is no chain of custody. There is no control. At least none of which I have read and I read everything I can find of this Ukrainian war.

Being an old artillery battalion S-4 back in the early fifties in a foreign land, that gives me the heebie-geebies!!


10 posted on 05/14/2022 12:26:50 PM PDT by elpadre (W)
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Benghazi all over again.


11 posted on 05/14/2022 12:29:29 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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Do they take paypal?


12 posted on 05/14/2022 12:30:11 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (The only good commie is one that's dead - Country Joe McDonald)
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To: All

Did anyone think otherwise?


13 posted on 05/14/2022 12:33:59 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

Right now they are only taking debt cards. I gave them my number and am waiting to hear back.


14 posted on 05/14/2022 12:35:59 PM PDT by Farmerbob
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How many airliners shot down by terrorists using stingers?

Stingers weren't laying all over Europe.

15 posted on 05/14/2022 12:36:22 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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And manpads are now?


16 posted on 05/14/2022 12:41:51 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Fu%k the Ballot box. Now the Cartridge Box)
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To: BenLurkin

“Being sold on via encrypted message app.”

Question is... How would they know this? Obviously encryption is not what it is supposed to be then...


17 posted on 05/14/2022 12:45:03 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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So- it’s going to be a “corrupt Ukrainian corporal”? Not the hundreds of Russians who have posted images all over of captured Western weapons?


18 posted on 05/14/2022 12:48:02 PM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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To: BenLurkin

By the headline and by a quick reading of a few comments, it appears that the selling is by the Ukraine government; as any good Orc propaganda piece aimed at inflaming US public opinion against Ukraine would do.

Even though the story cannot identify the actual sellers, who may be Russian or Ukraine mafia thugs, the actual culprits are unidentified.

Further, even though the story makes clear that only one or two types of weapons are of American manufacture, drive-bys make it all about American weapons.


19 posted on 05/14/2022 12:50:14 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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So- it’s going to be a “corrupt Ukrainian corporal”? Not the hundreds of Russians who have posted images all over of captured Western weapons?

It could just as easily be one or the other.

Ukrainians are no more virtuous than Russians. There's really no difference between the two. They are brothers, raised with the same set of beliefs and values. Corruption is just as endemic in Ukraine as it is in Russia.

"Saintly" Ukrainians and evil Russian "orcs" is largely a creation of Western media.

20 posted on 05/14/2022 12:51:41 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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