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Ukraine backtracks on promise to US.... despite assurances US weapons won’t be used to hit Russian territory.
The Thread Times ^ | 6/3/2022 | The Thread Times

Posted on 06/04/2022 8:27:16 AM PDT by caww

Responding to a question about whether the restrictions on the use of US-supplied rocket systems apply to Crimea, a peninsula that overwhelmingly voted to become part of Russia in a 2014 referendum, 'Arestovich' (Zelnsky's Top Advisor) said that it belonged to Ukraine.

“Crimea is ours. It belongs to Ukraine. And they [Russia] know it. Therefore, it will fly to Crimea double-time, should the need arise”,

Arestovich’s comment comes despite US Secretary of State Antony Blinken saying on Wednesday that Kiev has given Washington “assurances” that it won’t use American rockets to attack targets in Russia.

(Excerpt) Read more at thethreadtimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: bidenrepublicans; billionswasted; neocons4biden; ukrainecorruption
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1 posted on 06/04/2022 8:27:16 AM PDT by caww
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My understanding is that those systems wont be supplied with the long range missiles.

Or at least were not supposed to be...


2 posted on 06/04/2022 8:29:39 AM PDT by crz
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Blinken is a dangerous idiot.


3 posted on 06/04/2022 8:30:24 AM PDT by es345st
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These psycopaths are going to try and start WW3. Zelensky’s top people are bound and determined to get what they want regardless of the impact on the rest of the world.

I often wonder if that wasn’t there plan. Blackmail or force the world to give them what they want. It appears to be going that way.


4 posted on 06/04/2022 8:30:30 AM PDT by caww ( )
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Is one of the disputes that Ukraine does not recognize Russia’s annexation of Crimea, nor does the U.S.


5 posted on 06/04/2022 8:34:56 AM PDT by Petrosius
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All signals point to the bomb shelters being completed and fully stocked with food, water and supermodels.

If you're on the invite list make sure you are always within fifteen minutes of a heliport so you can be whisked to your future accomodations in time.

6 posted on 06/04/2022 8:34:57 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: crz
Are they going to resort to blackmailing Biden and nation leaders to get what they want? From the beginning they've done a lot of complaining and every time we send more of more. When does it end? Or do they have a strangle hold on NATO now?

These advisors to Zelensky are determined Ukraine will get what they want....so far they've accomplished this...now they are armed and have a steady flow of money. It's a dangerous situation with those ‘thugs’ in charge....and Biden cooperating as hand in glove.

7 posted on 06/04/2022 8:36:00 AM PDT by caww ( )
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I suspect there won’t be much infrastructure left in Kiev if Zelensky tries to be cute, as the hard-liners in Moscow will take over and make him pay a price.


8 posted on 06/04/2022 8:37:32 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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Anyone that trusts the Zelensky regime is a fool. There isn’t a more corrupt, unethical nation in Europe.


9 posted on 06/04/2022 8:37:57 AM PDT by Kazan
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What? The Socialist/Nazi Ukrainians lied? Say it ain’t so. /s


10 posted on 06/04/2022 8:38:04 AM PDT by D Rider ( )
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If they hit Crimea, you can bet Putin will not take it laying down.

These stooges with Zelensky are pushing buttons they should not have their hands on.


11 posted on 06/04/2022 8:38:15 AM PDT by caww ( )
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Two corrupt incompetent governments trying to fight against a dictator. Nobody wins and people suffer needlessly


12 posted on 06/04/2022 8:39:41 AM PDT by Nashcash
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What did they expect?


13 posted on 06/04/2022 8:40:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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A competent State Department would have specified exactly where the missiles could and couldn’t be used. No one there was bright enough to consider Ukraine’s stance on Crimea?


14 posted on 06/04/2022 8:41:13 AM PDT by FreedomForce
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The US government has many capabilities, but telling the truth isn’t one of them. When they can say that they will give the Ukraine government a shoot and scoot rocket system with a 300 mile operational range and rapid reload capacity run by 3 people and tell them what to do with it, the pigs will be in the air. And these things only cost a little under $500M apiece.

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed-martin/mfc/documents/himars/TSM-Fast-Facts-HIMARS.pdf

So the dollar amount alone overshoots the total dollars we are supposed to be giving them with just two of these systems. So besides lying, they lack math skills.

wy69


15 posted on 06/04/2022 8:50:32 AM PDT by whitney69
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Blinken has no whites in his eyes. He looks like one of the Volturi race of vampires from the Twilight movies.


16 posted on 06/04/2022 8:57:41 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: FreedomForce
A competent State Department would have specified exactly where the missiles could and couldn’t be used. No one there was bright enough to consider Ukraine’s stance on Crimea?

They always knew. The tricky part was parsing the US statement for the necessary level of plausible deniability.

17 posted on 06/04/2022 8:58:26 AM PDT by Wissa (The winds and waves are always on the side of the ablest navigators.)
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De jure Crimea is part of Ukraine. Firing on invaders there is not firing on Russia.


18 posted on 06/04/2022 9:03:52 AM PDT by Cronos
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“There isn’t a more corrupt, unethical nation in Europe.”
Unless you are saying Russia isn’t part of Europe.

Otherwise Russia wins hands down as the most corrupt, unethical nation in Europe.


19 posted on 06/04/2022 9:04:51 AM PDT by Cronos
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You can thank warmonger Newland as Bidens point gal for strongarming EU nation leaders to ride with Biden on this war. With Zelensky using the mic and his strongarm thugs as top advisors who want this war.

Adviser ‘Alexey Arestovich’ is one very bad apple.

Speaking in an interview on the topic of Ukraine possibly ceding part of the country’s territory, Arestovich said,...... ‘Go f**k yourselves with such proposals, you dumb f**ks, to trade Ukrainian territory a little bit! Are you f**king crazy?’

The remarks come after Kissinger spoke at the World Economic Forum urging Ukraine to find a way to restore peace in the region

Arestovich in 2017, admitted that since the start of the war in the Donbass, he has been methodically lying in his blogs and comments, acting as a “military expert”.

This guy is a crp and a psycopath - here’s some history on him - a good read for the interested to see who we’re dealing with.

https://www.agcnews.eu/ukrainerussiawar-the-thousand-faces-of-zelenskiys-military-adviser-oleksiy-nikolaevich-arestovich/


20 posted on 06/04/2022 9:07:00 AM PDT by caww ( )
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