Posted on 06/09/2022 3:38:58 AM PDT by dennisw
Yeah, but the sunsets will be spectacular.
The glass is half full…
“Yet I still don’t see how producing, processing, and storing hydrogen will ever produce more energy than it took to get it in a useable state.”
Windmills running at night when electricity demand is lowest? Use their electricity to make hydrogen. The oxygen can be sold off too as an industrial gas for welding. Medical uses too.
Solar panel farms are producing excess electricity? Store this energy as hydrogen. In the way mentioned in the above PM article. Ideally stored in modular, inter-changeable automobile batteries to replace lithium batteries. In say 20 years or so.
Toyota is probably the leader in hydrogen fuel cell research for automobiles. I think they’ve spent 10+ years on research.
This is one of their 2022 hydrogen fuel cell cars:
It is not the only problem with all these fantasy ideas of hydrogen production, storage, solar panel farms, windmills and other pipe dream renewalble processes... the problem is they are not ready now and we have been forced into an economy destroying condition of destroying and pricing beyond reach the available conventional sources we have now.
We are not only shooting ourselves in the foot, or rather the administration is, we are going for a good tight pattern with multiple shots so as to blow the foot clean off.
Thanks…. I didn’t know that.
Cheers…
The problem with hydrogen is....
https://preview.redd.it/f3nkee5q28z51.jpg?auto=webp&s=cb70d363e74533ecae274c37bef3b7732d102f30
My dream id to see all of the hydrogen problems solved, just when EVs are finally mainstream.
“Question....since hydrogen is highly flammable, how is that concern dealt with using this fuel source?”
Like GASOLINE isn’t? You DO use gasoline, right?
Gasoline, EXTREMELY EXPLOSIVE and FLAMMABLE.
Lithium batteries, EXTREMELY EXPLOSIVE and FLAMMABLE.
This hydrogen storage technology for automobiles would be very good if introduced slowly over 25 years. Starting five years from now. I am very pro-oil and my car is the usual ICE type.
The only way that it makes sense, is if the electricity to split the H2O/ to make the H2/ comes from solar farms and wind farms. China is building vast solar farms, in addition to the usual of building more coal burning plants.
Oh, come on. We can use the energy from burning the hydrogen to split the water into hydrogen and oxygen, then burn them together again, over and over in an endless cycle. You don't really believe that silly idea that perpetual motion machines don't exist, do you? (yes, /sarc).
Seriously, if we ever do find the solution to the age old dream of "Energy to cheap to meter", liberals will find SOMETHING wrong with it. Guaranteed. They're never going to let us just live our lives in peace, harmony and freedom.
Homer Simpson once told Lisa when she invented a perpetual motion machine for the science fair: “Lisa, in this house we obey the laws of thermo dynamics.”
It still take more energy to produce useable hydrogen then the hydrogen produces. Sure use excess nuclear and unstable wind and solar but to make a “solid state” hydrogen with something that has the same energy as a 20 gallon tank of gasoline?
Well. The market will figure it out. But regardless, the watermelons will never let it happen. A scientist could find a way to create endless energy and they would always find an endangered termit that needs protected and shut down the system.
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