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Social Security only has 13 years before it goes broke
Hotair ^ | 06/10/2022 | John Sexton

Posted on 06/10/2022 9:06:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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Some of the most important numbers are the least discussed. Ratio of Covered Workers to Beneficiaries, ssa.gov/history/ratios.html

year ratio covered workers : 1 beneficiary
1940 159.4 : 1
1945 41.9 : 1
1950 16.5 :1
1980 3.2 : 1
2013 2.8 : 1

Social Security was really a tax scheme sold as a safety net. It was expected to take in more than it pays out.

Reality happened, and now it pays out more than it takes it. Can't fixed what was made broke.

61 posted on 06/11/2022 1:59:58 PM PDT by Widget Jr (Disobey your television.)
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To: Elsie

“Grown men running around sweating?”

Yes. And — quite UNlike Congress — these guys actually achieve their competitive goals WITHIN the constraints of a time-limited, rules-based system. This sort of rules-based system is, obviously, something Congress knows nothing about; it’s not as if there’s, say, a written Constitution providing them a limiting framework of boundaries that constrain what they can do, or not do. /s

Any surprise, then, that people will actually pay appreciable money to watch sports; to see people work hard and follow a set of rules? Not like they’re getting any of that out of their elected Officials.


62 posted on 06/11/2022 2:09:08 PM PDT by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: rellic

My working years unfortunately did not include any lucrative paychecks, so consequently I did not pay as much in nor do I draw as much out. The thing is that I’ve managed to get by on it, but if it is cut back, I would tend to take that real personal & am not in a position to get back on anyone’s payroll to take up the slack either. For some, that may be the only way out; to continue to work after normal retirement time. I already did so that puts me several years further down the road age-wise & not in a position to go back to work. If the Democrats were responsible for using Soc. Sec. funds for other purposes, then this should fall on their shoulders. Perhaps they should forfeit their retirements.


63 posted on 06/11/2022 3:32:19 PM PDT by oldtech
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To: SeekAndFind

How many years till Welfare goes broke?


64 posted on 06/11/2022 5:33:19 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I wish “smart resume” would work for the real world so I could FF through the Burden admin BS.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How many people think a ‘browning population’ will be willing to pay more taxes to support a ‘mostly white’ population ?


65 posted on 06/11/2022 7:40:45 PM PDT by 11th_VA (I can still remember an America where dissent was the highest form of patriotism.)
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To: zeestephen

you act like anybody has a choice to pay into SS.....for over 40 yrs I donated, against my will.....


66 posted on 06/12/2022 12:10:51 AM PDT by cherry (;)
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To: cherry; SPDSHDW

You did not read my Comment #51 follow up.

I presume that you and others will vote for Congressional and presidential candidates who will end this bankrupt travesty.


67 posted on 06/12/2022 1:16:33 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: SeekAndFind
Social Security can't really go broke, because it's a Ponzi scheme, not a savings account. However it has passed the point of no return years ago. The money coming in to the program is extracted from taxes. The next month the retirees are paid with that money. It's been 10+ years since incomes for Social Security exceeded outgos.

I'm GenX and I will be lucky to break even on the deal. My son will lose money on the whole deal. He will end up paying more in taxes than he ever gets back. Oddly enough, Al Gore (Democrat) tried to change SS to an account type of thing, he called it a "lockbox". Powers made sure he was not elected.

I can't think of a single Democrat program that is sustainable. Not Social Security, not welfare, not green energy, nor the green movement.

68 posted on 06/12/2022 7:04:14 AM PDT by ChuckR163
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To: Sicon

Congress only prints money to help democrats and democrats victim groups... so that source is kaput.


69 posted on 06/12/2022 7:24:24 AM PDT by GOPJ (WLE's hunt for white supremacists allows spying on their hot sister in law & hoity-toity minister.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve been on SS for thirteen years now. And I am broke.


70 posted on 06/12/2022 8:25:22 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: lightman

“Ready for the Soylent Green new deal?”

I like that, can I borrow it?


71 posted on 06/12/2022 9:09:16 AM PDT by CottonBall (Ready for the Soylent Green new deal?)
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To: zeestephen

Voting? What will that change? The dems see my ballot, they’ll “correct” it to their choosing.


72 posted on 06/12/2022 10:28:29 AM PDT by SPDSHDW (Buy JHP ammo, Level 3/4 armor and rifles. Won’t be able to for much longer, and we’re gonna need em)
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To: SeekAndFind

Spent: $1,194,842
Revenues: $1,080,304

Seems it is broke by about $100 billion already.


73 posted on 06/12/2022 10:38:22 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Would restarting the Draft send them back?

Probably not...


74 posted on 06/14/2022 4:36:35 AM PDT by Does so (https//youtu.be/3PxEWB6W8ig ......Uke's Independence Day Parade. Anthem starts at 15:00)
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To: DannyTN

Even that’s not a viable solution at this point. Go ahead and do the math and see how much increase in GDP and tax revenue we would need to avoid default in the next 20 years. It’s impossible unless we have something akin to another industrial revolution.

But... if the economy picks up, it could delay the date a little bit, and it could reduce the need for more radical solutions a little bit, but we are still going to need radical solutions.


75 posted on 06/16/2022 3:02:31 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ten18

Well, I paid into the system and will get nothing in return, for absolutely no reason at all. So which is worse?

I wish they would at least let the people who they know will never get benefits stop paying into the system at this point, but they never will, since they need our money to keep the Ponzi scheme going for a couple more years.


76 posted on 06/16/2022 3:04:20 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ReaganGeneration2

“They haven’t tried working solutions for decades, on any problem.”

Yep, it seems government operates on the same principle as modern medicine: never cure the disease when you can make money treating the symptoms.


77 posted on 06/16/2022 3:06:04 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SeekAndFind

AOC says we’ll all die first...


78 posted on 06/16/2022 3:07:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (Trump said if Biden was elected, markets woulds crash and we'd be paying $6.99 for a gallon of gas.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m just in time. I’ll have only paid in for 20 years by that point.


79 posted on 06/16/2022 9:06:17 PM PDT by Patriot95
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To: SeekAndFind

SS is a ponzi scheme. The money was gone a long time ago.

THERE IS NO “TRUST FUND”. The federal government issues T bills to the SS administration phony trust fund and spends the money. The effin trust fund is a truckload of US treasury notes. Using Uncle Visa to pay off Aunt Mastercard.

In the private sector the CEOs of an accounting firm doing this would be in prison.

Here is another example. In Kentucky the budget has to be balanced. So to finance spending beyond tax revenues the state borrows money. One trick is borrowing from the teacher’s pension fund at interest rates above prevailing rates - as if the rate mattered. The teacher’s fund claims they are getting a great investment return on their money, while the real borrower is the state which is paying interest via tax revenues.

Look at it this way. The state is financing a 1 year budget shortfall with a 20 year note. That is criminal.


80 posted on 06/19/2022 4:28:08 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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