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To: Ultra Sonic 007; familyop
" Israel has been the most pro-LGBT country in the Middle East for literal years, so some of that evil you speak of has been quite out in the open there. "

Tragically true, yet less than America, thus if that is your basis for not supporting Israel as a nation then neither should you support the US as one. If you do, meaning opposing the liberal enemy within, then you should recognizes that Israel also America's only real ally in an area in which it is surrrouned by anti-American and antisemitic Muslims. Consider,

Israel comprises just 0.2 percent of the Middle East’s land mass while Arabs of today controls 24 nations... 99½ percent of the ENTIRE Middle East land mass, and Muslims of most surrounding nations have sought to kill or expel push the Jews from their ancient national homeland even before as well as after 1947, when Muslims, which came to be called Palestinians - a name cognate with the Biblical Hebrew Pəlīštīm and used for the land of the Hebrews from at least 450 BC (Herodotus) while the residents of Judea and Samaria were considered Jordanians before 1948, including by themselves - rejected the UN Partition Plan which would have established independent Jewish and Arab states and an international control of Jerusalem. Before that, under the 1922 international mandate the British were to help the Jews reestablish their homeland in the territory.

The Muslims would not tolerated the existence of the State of Israel in 1948 since the Arab community was still seeking to control the entirety of the Palestine Mandate itself, thus five Arab armies attacked Israel when it declared independence. Only to henceforth cry victim when they lost this war and subsequent attempts to drive Israel into the sea as it were.

Palestinians are essentially squatters which never were a nation before 1948, while about 20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs, mostly Muslims, with only 14% identifying as Palestinians, and live in homes they either own or rent, and are not required to perform mandatory military service. They have equal voting rights and Arabs currently hold 9 seats in the 120-seat Knesset and have also held various government posts, including one who served as Israel’s ambassador to Finland and the current deputy mayor of Tel Aviv. ( Myths & Facts Online - Human Rights in Israel and the Territories) And see The Real Reason Arabs in Israel Do Not Want to Live in 'Palestine'

Meanwhile, most Arab nations resist Palestinians immigration and refuse citizenship to them, due to their warring nature, being a destabilizing factor in both Israel and other nations, and for political purposes.

However, despite tiny Israel attempting to live in peaceful co-existence with its surrounding Muslim neighbors, even giving up almost all the land is conquered in victory over Muslim attempts to exterminate them, it is threatened and attacked by such, thus resulting in defensive actions which are invoked by liberals as unwarranted aggression, but which are warranted.

And while I am sure Israel has engaged in some wrong actions, and some discrimination exists, and is far from perfect tenants - including allowing “gay” parades,” they are the victims of unjust aggression by other nations.

66 posted on 07/20/2022 9:47:59 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212

I certainly don’t deny that Israel has been the victim of unjust aggression from its neighbors (and from certain Arabs that reside within its current de facto borders).

What I do deny, and have denied, is that the current nation-state of Israel is somehow a continuation or legitimate successor of the ancient Kingdom of Israel merely because it shares the same name and location: nothing more and nothing less.


68 posted on 07/20/2022 10:03:51 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: daniel1212; Ultra Sonic 007

Thanks, daniel1212. When I wrote the following in a previous comment,...

“Watch for them to move more against Israel to try to steal the credibility that they never had in hopes of controlling the world with it. Russians have already discussed further establishing their religion in Jerusalem, and many others of like mind are beginning to agree with their direction.”

...the word, credibility, was an error on my part. Substitute the word, legitimacy, for credibility. I’m personally dealing with a health condition here.


69 posted on 07/20/2022 1:37:14 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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