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To: nvskibum

Lower level Indian employees have claimed they have faced caste discrimination from their ethnic Indian bosses.
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I know a young man, capable computer scientist, who being white and US citizen, lost job due to being replaced by action of an Indian manager. Replaced by a (cheaper) indian.


2 posted on 08/15/2022 3:46:09 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: Scrambler Bob

We have a lot of Indians whose loyalty to their caste is like clan loyalty.

Given that marriage is supposed to stay within your caste, you COULD consider castes to be very big clans.


3 posted on 08/15/2022 3:52:11 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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I have sympathy with those who think that the legal immigration H1B visa program should be revisited to take into account effects on US citizens and current legal residents.

Is this person being replaced because of his Caucasian race as some kind of reverse discrimination? That should be illegal.

If his replacement is solely due to the lower salary, that is tougher. It needs to be part of the consideration of the numbers of H1B visas granted. This came up recently in Congress. I believe the high tech companies who want more cheap labor won.

A sad but true fact is that this pool of low cost educated Indian labor exists. If they don’t come here, they will go to jobs outside the US. This makes our tech companies less competitive unless they can compensate in some other way.

Hiring lower cost labor generally is not illegal.

It is tough to choose between protecting employees like your acquaintance and helping build stronger foreign tech competitors. I think it is in our national security interest to have the tech companies here.

But that is what is at stake.

My point is that once immigrants are here legally, they should be protected. That does not address how many should come here in the future, which is a completely different question. That is a subject of compromise. There will be some losers.

We let the semiconductor fabrication industry substantially leave the US for foreign locations that were more attractive to do business for cost, environmental and other reasons. I hope we don’t Make the same mistake again.


10 posted on 08/15/2022 4:15:35 PM PDT by nvskibum
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And less qualified person


15 posted on 08/15/2022 4:22:40 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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I read articles at Slashdot (nerd site) and have over the years read about how Indians will not hire anyone but people from India once in a position to do so.
Kinda like liberals never hire conservatives at say a university of state gov’t office.

#2 at the company I retired from in nov 21, they hired a IT manager 4 levels above my manager who was from India but lived in the US about 3 years ago. He seemed to be a smart guy from listening to him in meetings.

My managers boss and the guy who hired me in 2003 was a director. He reported to 2 guys above him who reported to the India guy.
The 3 positions were soon all replaced by someone from India. So 4 people from India replacing 4 Americans all in about 2 years. The director wanted us to know he was not forced out but he was.

The new director was a woman and she had an accent and the supervisor who only met her in Teams video meetings had trouble understanding her and had to work with her all day long. She and her bosses created a dept in India for chat but after a year shut it down due to language and tech skills problems. Now all new hires are from a temp agency from France at a lower rate of pay or in the new Poland help desk at 1/4 pay of what we were getting in the USA.
I wonder if they shut them down since I retired?

The manager quit May of 2021 for another job as he was never going to be promoted. He did think he was going to be the next director..... Thankfully he never was in that position as he liked to raise his voice and insult people in our dept. The supervisor quit abruptly end of July 2021 on a friday and sent out a chat notice the day he quit just to the west coast and east help desk groups people to tell us he was quitting but gave no detail as of why. We knew why. He did not notify the new manager from Mexico (I never met him the 5 months he was there when I was, just a few team meetings) or the director or above. We had a surprise meeting on Monday about him : )

The manager and supervisor now work at Harbor Freight in the IT dept. I feel very sorry for the workers there.


34 posted on 08/16/2022 1:09:53 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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