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To: JonPreston

More Russian disinformation from Comrade Ivan

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2 posted on 08/19/2022 7:49:30 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

Sure it is.

Meanwhile you and MM swear by media now as gospel even though that same has been vehemently eschewed here since Free Republic began and continues to be on any other issue

So who’s pushing propaganda really?


7 posted on 08/19/2022 7:57:27 AM PDT by wardaddy (Lawyers guns and money……I lived it…. Now I'm old…. I have wonderful children)
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To: canuck_conservative

“More Russian disinformation from Comrade Ivan

IGNORE”

As the Ukranian and American Oligarchs line their pockets with Billions of dollars and American weapons show up on the black market in the Middle EEast and elsewhere.


11 posted on 08/19/2022 8:05:48 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: canuck_conservative

The Gayzone with Corn Popp.

I don’t doubt there are crooks all over Eastern Europe, but someone caused the munitions stored at the Saki airbase on Crimea’s western Black Sea coast to explode on August 16, 2022, munitions depot near the Russian village of Timonovo, the airbase at Saki, etc.

Just because Biden and the leftist crews nominally sides with Ukraine, doesn’t mean Ukraine is the bad actor.

It’s like Bill Clinton liking pretty women. Well, so do I. I’m not going to stop liking pretty women because Bill Clinton likes them.


13 posted on 08/19/2022 8:07:13 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: canuck_conservative
More Russian disinformation from Comrade Ivan

I know you prefer the disinformation from Führer Zelensky.

24 posted on 08/19/2022 8:22:12 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐Public hangings will wake 'em up.⭐⭐)
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To: canuck_conservative
More Russian disinformation from Comrade Ivan

Hush Hoser. And ask permission before posting to an American!

32 posted on 08/19/2022 8:27:47 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: canuck_conservative

Yeah I followed the only and the only source for this is a Russian site.

No mention of a raise anywhere else on the internet.

I’m skeptical.


40 posted on 08/19/2022 8:34:14 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: canuck_conservative; marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; ...

[More Russian disinformation from Comrade Ivan

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Ukraine ping

It’s probably true - on both sides. War is a colossal waste of resources and men. The chaos means people are given opportunities to steal and do things to their personal enemies that they would not be able to in peacetime. Did a black market exist in WWII Russia? Almost certainly. Did Stalin dine on caviar while millions of Russians starved to death? Almost certainly. In peacetime, during a time of relative (to wartime) abundance, Russia’s rulers lived high on the hog while Ukrainians died by the millions:


https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-holodomor-photographs-directory-wienerberger-abbe-whiting-bokan/31235172.html
[The photographer’s ability to move among ordinary Soviet people while socializing easily with the communist elite meant he was also well-placed to record the stark contrasts that existed in what was being sold to the world as a progressive, classless society.

By day, in desolate mining towns, he would encounter throngs of hungry peasants looking for food who “preferred death to working on collective farms under the leadership of the Workers’, Soldiers’ and Peasants’ Parties.”

By night he often dined lavishly at official functions where “it was impossible to sit down to a meal without facing a table groaning with caviar, roast turkey, chicken, cold fish of every description, pastries, even the rarest of all luxuries: tenderloin steak.”]


But the Allies kept feeding and arming the Russians with many thousands of tanks and aircraft and huge amounts of food for one and only one reason - they killed Germans. As long as Ukraine continues killing Russians in order to persuade them to leave Ukraine, the aid is serving its principal purpose. Given that we put up with large-scale Russian atrocities and corruption during WWII, while giving the Russians perhaps 100x the aid we are handing to Ukraine, I think we can put up with Ukrainian corruption during Putin’s Ukrainian adventure - as long as Ukrainians keep stacking up dead Russians.

Fraud and corruption exist in recall referendum efforts* and capital markets**. That doesn’t mean recall efforts and free markets are bad things.

Even in peacetime, government bigwigs are wasting large sums of taxpayer cash on personal expenses. Dave Hackworth ferreted one incident out probably just by sheer luck (presumably through contacts in the Pentagon during his military service). The fact that this incident occurred and probably many others like it, does not point to a need to disband the military. Chuck Grassley on the incident in question:


https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CREC-2005-05-26/pdf/CREC-2005-05-26-pt1-PgS6007-2.pdf#page=1
[Over the years, we collaborated on a number of investigations. The one I re- member best is the one involving Air Force General Joseph Ashy in 1994–95

Colonel Hackworth conducted his own investigation. He gathered the facts and the documents. I, in turn, re- ferred Colonel Hackworth’s allegations to the inspector general, IG, for review.

This is what Colonel Hackworth re- ported in the press:

General Ashy flew himself, his aide and family cat from Italy to Colorado aboard a 200-seat Air Force plane; he flew his wife round-trip on an Air Force VIP aircraft from Colorado to Washington; and he made pala- tial renovations at his headquarters.

The IG concluded that General Ashy’s ‘‘wasteful escapades’’ cost the taxpayers $424,602.00.

Colonel Hackworth found out about General Ashy’s ‘‘escapades’’ from one of his beloved soldiers who was denied a seat—and free ride home—on Ashy’s airplane.

Colonel Hackworth’s comments were as follows:

The taxpayers got ripped-off for almost a half a million bucks by a member of our military elite and virtually nothing is being done about it. . . . The Air Force spinmeisters lied through their teeth about what General Ashy did. . . . Besides being a blatant waste of money, this incident is about deception and the art of diffusing re- sponsibility. . . . Ashy was fined a mere $5,020.00 and continues to have four stars and his finger on the nuclear button.

General Ashy wrote out a check for the fine and sent it to Air Force Head- quarters on June 26, 1995. However, in- stead of depositing his check at the bank, the check was stashed in a safe in Air Force Secretary Sheila Widnall’s office—for what I suspect was perma- nent safekeeping. At my request, the IG began making new inquiries and the check finally went to the bank on Sep- tember 15, 1995.]


* https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2022/08/18/exclusive-recall-gascon-committee-failed-to-pre-validate-signatures-hired-incompetent-vendors-n614367
** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madoff_investment_scandal


48 posted on 08/19/2022 8:42:50 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: canuck_conservative
Ignoring Russian propaganda is a good idea.

Today's example brought to us by Max Blumenthal, Lindsey Snell, and JonPreston only deserves a D-. The authors should have made up a better fake doctor.

The article uses made up names, claiming that somehow a doctor who supposedly lives in Maine would be in danger if their real name was used.

Nothing says legitimate reporting louder than fake names.

65 posted on 08/19/2022 9:17:40 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: canuck_conservative

I know there’s some truth to this but my experience is that in war time there’s never efficient use of resources it’s always inherently wasteful, war is chaos


74 posted on 08/19/2022 10:05:36 AM PDT by dila813
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