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Toyota Exec Says Lack Of Consumer Demand Makes U.S. Goal Of 50% Electric Vehicles By 2030 A Long Shot
Forbes via MSN ^ | 8/23/2022 | Jim HenryContributor

Posted on 08/23/2022 3:50:51 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

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To: Fai Mao

Until a compact on-board electrical power generation unit can be installed, competitive in cost and reliability on a level with the ICE vehicle, electricity-driven automobiles will never have much more of a market than they now have.

Now, electric power directly driving the wheels is a fine idea, from an engineering standpoint, each wheel has its own motor, and a computer system could maintain maximum traction to each wheel under all conditions. The problem is the means of getting the wattage to the drive motors. Batteries are not yet at the degree of reliability to provide that, which is why the on-board power generation system is suggested.

This can take many forms. Some version of an internal or external combustion power plant (steam engine comes to mind, as well as a Stirling cycle closed system), and a heat source to set the engine operating, which then spins an electric current generator, which supplies the wattage needed to drive the motors.

But no, the engineers are locked into a plodding and grudging attempt to make a battery system, that this time, maybe it will work. And it never really has.


61 posted on 08/23/2022 5:59:24 PM PDT by alloysteel (Be alert. The world needs more lerts. And smile. It adds to your face value.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

These car companies that are going big on electric are either lost in delusion or they know something we don’t.


62 posted on 08/23/2022 6:04:46 PM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: Ex gun maker.

It was meant as sarcasm the way the gov’t is practically forcing folks to buy one; here in WA our stupid gov’ner says 2023 is when state vehicles will be EV (or there bouts).


63 posted on 08/23/2022 6:08:33 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( I make airplanes fly, what's your super power?)
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64 posted on 08/23/2022 6:09:54 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19 (Res ad Triarios venit)
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To: alloysteel

Or the NDB technology can be improved to produce more power than it currently does. Then you’d have a electric car that does not need recharging because the device recharges itself continuously.


65 posted on 08/23/2022 6:12:26 PM PDT by Fai Mao
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To: SkyDancer

OK.
At least the people being “Regulated” by state government will be happy.
Scofflaws, but able to easily evade Gov. agents who have to wait constantly on charging.


66 posted on 08/23/2022 6:16:06 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Free thinking is now a radical concept, I will not be assimilated by PC or EV groupthink!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

I wouldn’t trust an electric car to get me unstuck in the snow without it bursting into flames


67 posted on 08/23/2022 6:22:38 PM PDT by roving ( Pronouns- libs/suk)
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To: rdcbn1
Agree wholeheartedly. I can’t stand the Dims forcing folks to EV’s, but my wife and I like our EV. Of course, we have an ICE truck too in case we go on a trip in a direction that has few chargers. I’ll take the ICE truck on the few times I go out of state without her even if there are plenty of chargers (because I like to drive maybe 400 miles between stops).

If I may ask, why Tesla? IMHO the Kia EV6 and Hyundai Ioniq 5 provide a lot for the price.

68 posted on 08/23/2022 6:46:55 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

c’mon man!

didnt you get the memo?

they are just going to increase the price of gas until there is interest

didnt you hear mayor pete?

the pain is worth it


69 posted on 08/23/2022 6:57:47 PM PDT by joshua c (where did my tagline go? if you see it please call someone else. i was tired of it.)
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To: rktman

If CornPop and his puppet masters continue to have their way, lack of interest isn’t going to matter.

Goes to the saying: beatings will continue until morale improves…..or……we will make gas so expensive and continue to reward EV buyers with taxpayer money until everyone is forced to buy one.


70 posted on 08/23/2022 7:24:57 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: butlerweave

won’t allow you to take out a loan to buy an ICE car.

A bank in Australia is doing just that.

Australian Bank Won’t Offer Loans for Gas or Diesel Cars Beyond 2025

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/australian-bank-won-e2-80-99t-offer-loans-for-gas-or-diesel-cars-beyond-2025/ar-AA10ZmUC


71 posted on 08/23/2022 7:28:42 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: technically right

Not to mention that anything that breaks on your internal combustion engine vehicle can be replaced and it can be economically kept on the road indefinitely.

Electric vehicles require at least a $20k investment every few years.

Electric vehicles are virtue signalling for wealthy people.


72 posted on 08/23/2022 7:31:34 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: packagingguy

Little kids working in the open pit cobalt mines in the Congo

Tesla Is Reviving Old School Battery Technology

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/tesla-is-reviving-old-school-battery-technology

Interesting, ain’t it). The world starts to learn about the child slave labor and kids dying in those mines…..VOILA….let’s revert to old technology.

Yeahhhhhh, riiiiiiight!!


73 posted on 08/23/2022 7:35:11 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: BBB333

All their factories are in Right To Work states.

UAW has been trying to get the folks at the VW plant in Chattanooga to unionize for years. Workers say No, every time.

These companies get insane tax packages to build their plants. Workers unionize…..hasta la vista….or…..more robots, automation and layoffs.

Hell, Hyundai recently got caught with kids working in their plant in Montgomery. VW is looking for workers.


74 posted on 08/23/2022 7:38:47 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: butlerweave

One of the main ways that Musk got his start.


75 posted on 08/23/2022 7:39:55 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: RomanSoldier19

whichever company that can still build conventional gas cars after 2030 will be worth multi billions.


76 posted on 08/23/2022 7:40:50 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: FreedomPoster

Being able to support that need doesn’t matter. It’s the thought that counts. /sarc


77 posted on 08/23/2022 7:41:41 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: matt04

And the people that live in center city. I might invest in 1000 or 2000 feet long extension cords so they can plug their cars in where they parked several blocks away.


78 posted on 08/23/2022 7:45:44 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: packagingguy

are destroying the people and forests of Myanmar, same thing as in the Congo.

As long as any pollution attributed to EVs and the electricity needed to charge them doesn’t come from a tail pipe, EV owners are fine.

As long as Georgetown, Atlanta, City of Decatur, San Fran, Austin, Silicon Valley aren’t next to or look like a lithium mine, all is good. As long as all of that takes place 1000s of miles away, all good.


79 posted on 08/23/2022 7:50:43 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: alloysteel

What you’re describing is basically a diesel locomotive.

Ginormous diesel generator produces electricity that powers the drive wheels.

IIIRC, each locomotive carries 4000 gallons of diesel. It’s been a while so maybe it’s less than that.


80 posted on 08/23/2022 7:54:44 PM PDT by qaz123
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