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To: SaxxonWoods

Were they better off with Saddam? Were WE better off with him there?


3 posted on 08/29/2022 1:49:57 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

We were much better off, Saddam kept Iran and Islamic radicals in check.


13 posted on 08/29/2022 1:55:00 PM PDT by Husker24 (Pp)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Excellent questions. For quite a while, I have been asking myself if Saddam’s execution was justified.


19 posted on 08/29/2022 2:02:00 PM PDT by Ebenezer ("Be strong and of good courage.")
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Were they better off with Saddam? Were WE better off with him there?

Yes, and Yes. The only winner of the Iraq War was Iran.

21 posted on 08/29/2022 2:03:30 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

The ones going through the wood chipper weren’t better off.


57 posted on 08/29/2022 3:53:17 PM PDT by firebrand ( )
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Maybe Iran can roll in and establish order? With Russian help they can bring peace to Iraq at last. Maybe Kurds can at last have their Kurdistan Dream? It would stick a thumb into Turkey’s eye! Maybe that’s what should have happened all along? US need to send all the weapons and extra men to Ukraine to fight our biggest enemy Russia. This might be a “second Front” to rip the Middle east from Trump’s Peace plan and take out Saudi Arabia?


58 posted on 08/29/2022 3:56:26 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Christians were better off under Saddam. His #2 was a Christian, and they were treated the same as the Sunnis and Shiites. The Bush Organization had to do the bidding of their Saudi masters, however.


61 posted on 08/29/2022 4:14:58 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: DIRTYSECRET

No. And no. Saddam Hussein was a mass-murdering, genocidal tyrant who waged war on his neighbors, his own people, Israel and the United States. He was a state sponsor of terrorism who harbored, funded and trained Islamist terrorists. Iraq, the U.S. and the world are better off without him in power.


65 posted on 08/29/2022 5:33:28 PM PDT by kristinn (Serving ten to life in paradise)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Were they better off with Saddam? Were WE better off with him there?”

Iraq under Saddam was a secular Muslim state between two theocratic Muslim countries - Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shiite Iran. He served as a buffer between these theocratically and ethnically opposed nations. Removal of Saddam strengthened Iran which today essentially controls Iraq.

Since WWII U.S. Presidents have ignored the Constitution’s requirement for a formal declaration of war by Congress before the United States goes to war. During the over 75 years since the declared WWII, which we clearly won, here are the results of these non declared wars:

China in the 1940’s. We did not commit troops but did commit money and material. Our side, the Republic of China, lost control of the mainland to the communists and today retains control of only Taiwan which is today under threat of invasion by Communist China.

Korea from 1950-1953. A draw at best. The border between North and South Korea remains approximately at the 38th parallel. No unification of Korea was accomplished by either side. The North remains communist and now has nuclear weapons and delivery systems which threaten the US. Arguably our homeland is more vulnerable than it was when we went to war in 1950. Certainly we have expended billions of dollars since in military and economic aid to South Korea plus our troops are still stationed in South Korea. What do we have to show for this ongoing investment?

Vietnam in the 1960’s and 1970’. The US went to war supporting corrupt South Vietnam against the communist North Vietnam under the proposition that failing to do so would result in the other countries of south Asia falling to communism. After 50,000 dead American soldiers, over 150,000 wounded, and billions of dollars of borrowed money to prosecute the war, we abandoned South Vietnam and it fell to communist North Vietnam in 1975. The “Domino Theory” used to justify the war to the American public did not play out. After victory, North Vietnam focused on uniting the north and south and reeducating the people of the south. No other Asian nations fell to communism. Today united Vietnam is still communist but now a significant exporter of goods to the US. The war was a complete waste of blood and resources.

Middle Eastern Wars of the 1990’s and 2000’s. President George H.W. Bush hired out the US military as a mercenary army to drive Iraq out of Kuwait after it invaded Kuwait. The mission, funded by the Arab states, was successful in doing so with minimal loss of American lives. However the ruler of Iraq, Saddam Hussein was not removed and he continued to irritate the United States through the 1990’s.

After the 2001 terrorist attacks on US soil the United States invaded Afganistan to hunt down Osama Bin Lauden, the terrorist leader who allegedly planned the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Bin Lauden wasn’t found in Afghanistan. The United States pursed a war to remove the Taliban from power. For 18 years the United States maintained troops in Afghanistan, spent trillions of dollars on the military occupation and building infrastructure, and then left the country, handing over to the new Taliban government $80 billion in war material. A tremendous waste of blood and money.

The US also, without a declaration of war, invaded Iraq in 2003 and deposed Saddam Hussein as leader of the country. The rationale for the war was that Saddam Hussein had developed “weapons of mass destruction” which threatened the United States. After conquering the country, and the death of Saddam, US troops did not find weapons of mass destruction. The US attempted to rebuild Iraq, and “make it safe for democracy”. After years of fighting terrorists and insurgents in Iraq, the US pulled out in 2009. Today Iran effectively controls the country.

Now we are fighting a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine. We are sending billions of dollars in US military equipment, plus advisors to teach the Ukrainians to use the equipment. The US is engaging in economic warfare with Russia in the form of economic sanctions which the US has pressured other nations to impose. Why this war is in the strategic interest of the United States has not been explained to the American people. We are investing dollars that have to be borrowed and printed to thwart the Russian invasion of Ukraine at a time when 3 million people have illegally crossed the southern border of the United States in the past year and settled in our homeland. Meanwhile our action

The question American citizens should be asking is why we have been spending trillions of dollars and tens of thousands of American lives on undeclared foreign wars which have done nothing to improve the safety of the homeland. American citizens should also ask why the government is permitting and facilitating an invasion across our southern border which is fundamentally changing the nation.


68 posted on 08/29/2022 5:58:53 PM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work o)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Were they better off with Saddam? Were WE better off with him there?

Yes/Yes.

In 1990 we should have let him go to Riyadh.

69 posted on 08/29/2022 6:05:53 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When policemen break the law, then there isn't any law - just a fight for survival)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Yes.


81 posted on 08/29/2022 10:01:13 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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