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New York legislation designates Times Square a 'gun free' zone
Fox News ^ | 8/31/22 | Julia Musto

Posted on 08/31/2022 8:46:34 AM PDT by Yo-Yo

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To: Yo-Yo

Only time will tell if you’re right.


41 posted on 08/31/2022 12:05:53 PM PDT by 353FMG
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This will certainly face litigation, and it will be interesting to see how brazenly the district and appellate courts try to undermine SCOTUS on this.

The standard now is “strict scrutiny”, so they’re going to have to get creative.


42 posted on 08/31/2022 12:07:07 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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This will certainly face litigation, and it will be interesting to see how brazenly the district and appellate courts try to undermine SCOTUS on this.

The standard now is “strict scrutiny”, so they’re going to have to get creative.

No, even "strict scrutiny" was blown out of the water by Justice Thomas in his Bruen opinion. The standard is only "history and tradition," so it will be up to the courts to decide if there is a "history and tradition" of banning concealed carry in vast swaths of a city like Times Square, and if there is a "history and tradition" of banning concealed carry in businesses of public accommodation without that business' explicit permission.

43 posted on 08/31/2022 12:16:11 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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When a crazy criminal shoots an innocent citizen in Times Square will the media take note that it happened in a “gun free “ zone?


44 posted on 08/31/2022 12:20:05 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Damn it! We need Trump! America First! Bring America back! We're being governed by fascists.)
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Hmm...going to have to learn more about that decision then. I remember one of the “lawTube” guys referring to strict scrutiny in this context, but that’s clearly not dispositive.

In any case, it’ll be interesting to see how the lower courts deal with these upcoming cases.


45 posted on 08/31/2022 12:43:50 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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When a crazy criminal shoots an innocent citizen in Times Square will the media take note that it happened in a “gun free “ zone?

You know the answer to that even before you asked it.

All of Manhattan has been a gun-free zone since 1911 and the media never took note of that fact. Why would they start now?

But the first time a tourist is busted with a concealed firearm and an out-of-state permit, you can count on the media noting THAT.

https://gothamist.com/news/woman-arrested-for-bringing-concealed-gun-to-911-memorial

It's deja vu again: A Wisconsin woman visiting the 9/11 Memorial yesterday was arrested after a security guard screening her bag spotted a gun in the purse.

Ursula Jerry, 41, had a .380-caliber semi-automatic Kel-Tec gun in her purse. The Wall Street Journal reports, "The weapon had two rounds in the magazine-none were in the chamber, the official said." Jerry also told cops, "I travel with this from home on Amtrak to New York City. I don’t mean harm to anyone."

Jerry has a permit for the gun in Wisconsin, but not NYC. Responsible gun owners would know that New York City is really horrible and requires a NYC gun permit, which means out-of-towners are out of luck.

(As an aside: Only two rounds?!?)

46 posted on 08/31/2022 12:51:26 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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Hmm...going to have to learn more about that decision then. I remember one of the “lawTube” guys referring to strict scrutiny in this context, but that’s clearly not dispositive.

Please do read it. It's written in plain language, and Justice Thomas has written a masterpiece. (Actual opinion begins on pdf page 7.)

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

47 posted on 08/31/2022 12:54:21 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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"destroyed the ability for a governor to be able to protect her citizens from people who carry concealed weapons anywhere they choose."

Those are not the people that the citizens need protection from.

Hochul pledged to combat the gun violence epidemic.

No, she isn't doing that at all.

48 posted on 08/31/2022 1:14:20 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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New York Gov. Kathy Hochul

Will she put a sign like that on her house? Nupe.

49 posted on 08/31/2022 3:07:41 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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