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Chess Is in Chaos Over Suspicion That a Player Cheated Against Magnus Carlsen
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 09/08/2022 | Andrew Beaton and Joshua Robinson

Posted on 09/10/2022 7:05:53 PM PDT by TheConservator

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To: DSH; devere

I agree. It sounds like he is just pissed he lost.


21 posted on 09/10/2022 7:36:44 PM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: rlmorel

Exactly


22 posted on 09/10/2022 7:39:54 PM PDT by TheConservator (Beware the tyranny of the woke mob. There has never been a greater threat to liberty.)
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To: TheConservator

Niemann said he would play a rematch while in the nude to prove that he did not cheat.

I say - Game on!


23 posted on 09/10/2022 7:46:13 PM PDT by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! R)
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To: rlmorel

It works just like cheating at poker. You hide a couple queens in your pocket and then say “hey, what’s that?”. While everyone is looking somewhere else, you put them on the board.


24 posted on 09/10/2022 7:51:43 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: TheConservator

A cochlear implant would be impossible unless a transmitter was nearby. And that would surely be detected and incapacitated. It must be mental telepathy etc.. And I don’t suspect that. Sounds like Mr. Carlsen’s nerves were in play.


25 posted on 09/10/2022 7:53:34 PM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground. - Mencken)
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To: libh8er
Agree. Once a cheater, always a cheater. Just like a woman.

26 posted on 09/10/2022 7:55:13 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: TheConservator

CHEATERS!!!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating_in_chess


27 posted on 09/10/2022 8:00:46 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: TheConservator

Is there any penalty for dropping out of a tournament? Does Carlsen forfeit all remainng matches? Or does he limit his loss to the one blunder and somehow preserve his ranking?


28 posted on 09/10/2022 8:05:18 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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Cheating at chess has been around for centuries.

It doesn’t have to be computer moves. At top levels, players have preparation teams. There have been bribes given to secure a player’s prep.

An excellent female player about 15 yrs ago was accused of having a chess engine (a computer that plays super well) hidden in her lipstick case. It was confiscated. She still won.

The rules are very precise. It is permitted for players to stand and walk around during play. But it is teetering on the brink of cheating to walk behind your opponent and look at the board from his view. That’s not a violation, but players use it as an occasion to lean down close and distract.

Chess drama is pretty high on the intensity spectrum.


29 posted on 09/10/2022 8:05:35 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Larry Lucido

Funny scence. But I think it would be impossible to play RISK on a moving subway full of riders.


30 posted on 09/10/2022 8:07:08 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: TheConservator

Legendary Chess sore losers through the ages. There were some doozies.

https://www.chessmaniac.com/sore-losers-and-tempers-in-chess/


31 posted on 09/10/2022 8:10:57 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Leaning Right

Lordy that’s funny


32 posted on 09/10/2022 8:16:27 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Or most men


33 posted on 09/10/2022 8:20:05 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: BradyLS
Is there any penalty for dropping out of a tournament? Does Carlsen forfeit all remainng matches? Or does he limit his loss to the one blunder and somehow preserve his ranking?

If Carlsen had any contractual obligations that he breached with the Sinquefield Cup organizers for dropping out of the tourney, that hasn't been made public knowledge. One would suspect that there were no such obligations, since apart from the sudden onset of ill health, it's all but unprecedented for a player to withdraw from a limited field, invitational professional chess tournament (the Sinquefield Cup was a 10-player tournament, conducted in a single round-robin format).

Carlsen played, and lost, to Niemann in the third round. Carlsen had won his first round game (against Ian Nepomniatchi, the Russian grandmaster whom he'd defeated in most recently defending his world champion title last year), drawn his second game (again Levon Aronian), and then forfeited his fourth round game against Shakhriyar Mamedyarov when he didn't appear that afternoon to play.

After Carlsen withdrew, per the rules of the event, his results up to that point in the event were annulled. This means that the point in the standings that Niemann had earned for his victory over Carlsen was wiped out (as was Shak's forfeit victory), Nepo's loss didn't count, and Aronian lost the half-point he got for his second round draw. For purposes of the tournament, it's as if those games weren't played at all. In what was now a nine player tournament, going forward the player who was scheduled to play Carlsen in each subsequent round ended up with a bye that day.

But while the three games that Carlsen actually contested didn't count for purposes of the tournament, they did count for purposes of ratings adjustment. So, in that respect, Niemann still gets his rating boost for having beaten Carlsen. That game, and the other two games, were "official" in that respect.

But, obviously, Carlsen's withdrawal really f*cked up what is the premier professional chess tournament played each year in the U.S. In that regard alone, his behavior was unconscionable.

34 posted on 09/10/2022 8:33:44 PM PDT by DSH
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To: TheConservator

Steroids? “Corked” bishops?

How do you cheat in chess?


35 posted on 09/10/2022 8:48:05 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: RedMonqey

A computer is sending signals somehow.

Maybe a hidden ear piece is saying move d5 to c3.


36 posted on 09/10/2022 8:51:38 PM PDT by MNDude (Once you remove "they would never" from your vocabulary, it all begins to make sense)
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To: PerConPat
A cochlear implant would be impossible unless a transmitter was nearby. And that would surely be detected and incapacitated.

Quite a few years ago there was a team working in casinos that used a transmitter to activate a vibrator in the cheater's shoe that operated like a primitive Morse code system.

Such a system might work for someone running the chess game on computers and transmitting moves to the player.

37 posted on 09/10/2022 8:58:34 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: TheConservator

Unless it is in ADX Florence Supermax there can be cheating, and even then


38 posted on 09/10/2022 8:59:46 PM PDT by A strike (LGBFJRoberts)
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To: BradyLS
Funny [Sienfeld] scene. But I think it would be impossible to play RISK on a moving subway full of riders.

I've thought many board games would benefit from being magnetic to minimize issues if someone accidentally bumped the board or dropped something on it. The was one board game that had the dice in the center in a plastic bubble so you couldn't lose them. You'd press down on the bubble and plastic piece deformed and then popped back into place when you let go, bouncing the dice around inside.

They've made mini magnetic chess and tic-tac-toe sets for years. I could see them being popular when more people traveled by train. (longer rides than subway runs)

39 posted on 09/10/2022 9:07:15 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: devere

“He’s a 31 year old crybaby.” Perhaps. The chess champ is disabled and gets 100% respect like every person. Simple solution: Champ and opponent play again.


40 posted on 09/10/2022 9:11:12 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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