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To: TheConservator

The guy has a track record of cheating online. For such a guy at only 19 to win with the black pieces against magnus…it screams cheating.


3 posted on 09/10/2022 7:09:46 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: libh8er

It may scream to you, but there’s no evidence he cheated Carlsen.

Niemann made human-like mistakes during the game, and Carlsen made even worse ones and lost. In my opinion Carlsen disgraced himself by withdrawing from the tournament.

In his interview Niemann admitted he cheated online twice, once as 12 year old, and once as a 16 year old, but says he has never cheated in an over the board game. Until there is ever conflicting evidence, I believe him. Carlsen throwing a tantrum isn’t evidence.


8 posted on 09/10/2022 7:18:33 PM PDT by devere
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To: libh8er
Agree. Once a cheater, always a cheater. Just like a woman.

26 posted on 09/10/2022 7:55:13 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: libh8er; TheConservator
For such a guy at only 19 to win with the black pieces against magnus…it screams cheating.

Carlsen played a series of inferior moves and lost. Recently rated at over 2800 and second in the world (currently 4th at 2785) is 19-year old Alireza Firouzja who is tied for the lead in the tournament with one round left to play. 17-year old Indian player Praggananandaa Rameshbabu (2687) (Pragga) has defeated Carlsen three times, the first at age 16. There are five teenage super grandmasters rated over 2700 (of 42 total). Players that good beating Carlsen does not scream cheating. Although he is still the highest rated player in the world, Carlsen is human and his highest rating was in 2014. Before the recent Candidate's Tournament Carlsen said he likely would not play in the Championship next year unless the challenger were Alireza Firouzja. Russian Ian Nepomniatchi won the tournament for the second consecutive time. Carlsen formally informed FIDE (the governing body) that he would not participate in the championship match and Nepomniatchi will meet the Challenger runner-up Chinese player Ding Liren.

Stockfish Robot, the personification of the super-strong Stockfish computer chess engine (substantially stronger than any human) reviewed the Carlsen-Niemann game and detected no cheating, but did detect a series of substandard moves by Carlsen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf1FZvHwX1A

Stockfish Robot Reacts on HANS NIEMANN CHEATING | Magnus carlsen vs hans niemann | Stokfish

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Did Hans Cheat?
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The Sinquefield Cup Chief Arbiter issued a statement in response to rumors confirming that they "have no indication that any player has been playing unfairly in the 2022 Sinquefield Cup."

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“In response to the recent rumors circulating the chess world, I can confirm that we currently have no indication that any player has been playing unfairly in the 2022 Sinquefield Cup. This includes all rounds played to date.

We have been running all the Grand Chess Tour events, including the Sinquefield Cup, and other major tournaments here in Saint Louis, for many years with the same strict anti-cheating measures that were in place for rounds 1-3, and we are not aware of any fair play violations during these past events. These measures included scanning of players with metal detectors prior to games and randomly after games, close observation of the players and fair play analysis by Professor Kenneth Regan using the FIDE Game Screening Tool.

However, on behalf of all the players and the event, I consulted with Grand Chess Tour Chief Arbiter, IA David Sedgwick, and together we advocated that additional anti-cheating measures be enacted after round 3. These measures included the scanning of players with RF scanners and a 15-minute delay on the live broadcast. I am very thankful to the organizers in Saint Louis who immediately agreed to these requests, despite additional expenses, last-minute technical issues and the loss of a truly live broadcast.

The arbiter team will continue to remain vigilant, and all of the anti-cheating measures that have been in place will continue to be so for the remainder of this event.

IA Chris Bird
Chief Arbiter, 2022 Sinquefield Cup
Grand Chess Tour Deputy Chief Arbiter”

At elite tournaments, such as the Sinquefield Cup, bathrooms are checked to defeat the old cell phone in the bathroom trick. Players are scanned entering and leaving for electronic devices.

For a player to cheat at the board at this event would require him to do it on camera.

The broadcast time delay instituted after the third round was aimed at deterring assistance from outside the playing room. The outside assistant would have to wait 15 minutes to see the position and the player would have to sit and wait while his clock runs.

48 posted on 09/10/2022 11:17:45 PM PDT by woodpusher
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