[Bruce Campbells Chin]

In fairness, it's kind of tough to argue that the Russians didn't have much armor left, then argue that they left massive quantities of it behind. Either they had it, or they didn't.

My guess is that most of the mech recovered will be stuff that wasn't working and that was set for repair. Maybe some towed assets, etc., might have been captured in working condition, but if you have a usable tank, BMP, BTR, etc., you'd probably flee in that, right?

[pierrem15]

My guess is that most of the mech recovered will be stuff that wasn't working and that was set for repair.

A fair assessment I think. But those will provide a lot of spare parts as well.

[UMCRevMom@aol.com]

“but if you have a usable tank, BMP, BTR, etc., you’d probably flee in that, right?”

You wouldn’t flee in Russian military tanks & trucks if you are putting on civilian clothes quitting as a soldier in the Russian army. Intercepted phone calls are reporting this as well as Russian soldiers shooting themselves in leg or shoulder.

[ansel12]

They may prefer to steal a car and not be a target.

[alexander_busek]

In fairness, it's kind of tough to argue that the Russians didn't have much armor left, then argue that they left massive quantities of it behind. Either they had it, or they didn't.

It's "tough" only if the listener is too dense and incapable of understanding that the (true) statement "The Ukrainians have destroyed lots of Russian armor" and/or "The Russians have lost massive amounts of armor" is NOT equivalent to the (false) assertion "The Russians thus have absolutely no more armor left that they could lose."

The Ukrainians have inflicted devastating losses upon the Russians. Further, Russian cowardice / unwillingness to fight, the sheer incompetence of Russian leadership, and the catastrophic state of Russian equipment and/or abysmal Russian supply logistics have been responsible for further massive losses.

This does not preclude the possibility of there still being large amounts of Russian matériel still waiting to be destroyed by Ukrainian forces or abandoned by retreating Russian troops.

Regards,

[jmacusa]

Yeah till you run out of gas.

The Germans in WW2 produced monster tanks like the Tiger and the King Tiger, they even built a behemoth they called the “Jagdtiger’’. This thing had eight inches of armor and a 128mm main gun.

The things ran out of fuel and had to be abandoned. The Russkies are probably in the same situation.

[mad_as_he$$]

It has been traditional military tactics for centuries to sabotage abandoned equipment during a “stratgic repositioning”. Of course we didn't do that when we left Afcrapistan; so the Russians seem to following our lead

[DoughtyOne]

If you had enough fuel. Sure...

[PIF]

In fairness, it’s kind of tough to argue that the Russians didn’t have much armor left, then argue that they left massive quantities of it behind. Either they had it, or they didn’t.

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Didn’t have much armor left RELATIVE to how much they began with. Armor also counts various fighting vehicles beside tanks.

6 tanks here, 9 thanks tanks there are “massive” to reporters seeking a headline, but inconsequential to the standard Russian Mechanized Brigade which can have up to 60 tanks. Tank brigades have more.

[DUMBGRUNT]

—”My guess is that most of the mech recovered will be stuff that wasn’t working and that was set for repair. Maybe some towed assets, etc.,”

That said, Now Ukraine has received more equipment from enemy troops than from the BIG TOE of Europe, Germany.