Posted on 09/19/2022 12:04:23 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
Did Larry Elder drop out of the race for California Governor even before election day?
I wouldn’t vote for him if he runs in 2024.
Nice guy - he’ll have a chance to help Trump quite a bit.
That’s about all.
Let me guess, we’ll have 47 people in the hunt this time.
Good grief are these people (some like Larry, I like a whole
lot by the way) ever misguided.
There’s millions to be made in running for president.
Bingo that’s the name of the game
He had absolutely ZERO chance of ever getting elected governor of California!
All he did was to ensure Newsom would survive his recall by sucking all of the air out of the room and preventing someone more moderate and actually electable, like San Diego mayor Kevin Fauloner, from mounting a formidable challenge.
Larry Elder needs to piss off and go away.
No. Larry didn’t drop out, but he just didn’t catch on with the voters. Plus, in California, the media is not usually very helpful to you if you’re not a Democrat.
He tried. This may be another case where a good person just doesn’t garner enough support from his side.
Colonel Alan West and Laura Loomer are two other such cases, where a good person just doesn’t gain enough push to get past the Democrat Cheating machinations that always happen in Blue States.
The Trump-or-die crowd can be as misguided and immature as the never-Trump crowd.
England finally has a king. For some folks, so does America.
Oh, both of you stop with the pearl-clutching and hyperbole.
Elder is taking legitimate flak for total failure to read the tea leaves, and NOBODY but the disgusting never-trumpers over at National Review has ever painted Trump as a king. Trump was a legitimate President who actually made tangible progress in positive directions on numerous fronts, and his burgeoning effectiveness was THE MAIN REASON why all the Statists in the country dogpiled on him every chance they got.
He wasn’t perfect, but in terms of change that affected Americans right at their own kitchen tables Trump was more a President of all the people than anyone else in half a century, including Reagan, who had the some of same govt-cutting inclinations but was hobbled by a belligerent Congress.
Trump is hated because he found ways to use bureaucracy against itself to carve through the beltway crap and accomplish his stated goals IN SPITE of the resistance of three-letter agencies all over Washington.
People who hate Trump either have no clue who he really is or what he did, have to because their chosen political alignments preclude them admitting anything else, or they’re sour-grapes moderates who haven’t the balls to get behind his bare-knuckle taking it to the mats style of achievement. As a commander, he’s got FAR more in common with Patton than with Washington, but in the absence of the broad loyalty Washington enjoyed, a hard-nosed, hard-eyed, unflinching Patton is the Chief this country absolutely needs.
No middling pantie waists need apply.
If I were a possible candidate for 2024 and with Trump playing coy about his intentions, I would be doing some preparation in case he doesn’t run. If he runs in 2024, then I’d quietly wind things down unless Liz Cheney decided to run for the Republican nomination, then I’d run for the sole purpose of destroying her so Trump could stay above that fray. (Although I doubt he could resist destroying her if given chance.)
I am glad to know that Larry Elder did not quit the race. I have always liked him.
I never wear black. So I rarely wear pearls.
"FAR more in common with Patton..."
No doubt.
As I've said here before, Trump is a destroyer. In a good way.
He destroyed the Bush dynasty, the McCain myth and the Clinton machine. Plus the Cheney family and philosophy. I'll help pay to put The Don on Mt Rushmore for those great American victories alone.
They should chisel off Teddy Roosevelt's mustache, add it to his hair line and rename it Trump. He is already staring down Lincoln. And there is enough blank mountain face between Trump and Lincoln to chisel a text bubble: "Hey Abe, what's with Liz?"
Yes, Trump has other great accomplishments. Unfortunately, much of it EO-related and easily reversed.
He is number one in patriotism. Which is great. I wish he'd stick with America First instead of the awful-because-subjective MAGA stuff.
But Trump is not a great builder, in a long-term political sense. Which is hard for fans to accept because he is a successful developer in the private world. But we don't need anything BUILT in the central govt (please, no more SwampVax, Don). We need much of it destroyed. Politically and functionally speaking.
"...No middling pantie waists... "
You don't know me..
Oh, the “middling pantie waists” jab was aimed at milquetoast potential GOP Presidential hopefuls like Elder, not at you.
Laughed out loud at your Mt. Rushmore remarks.
I think Trump’s cavalcade of EO’s was anticipated by him to be stopgap until the Republicans in Congress could shore it all up with supporting legislation. In that regard, as with many of his appointees, he seems to have been led down the primrose path and thought he was more staunchly supported by the GOP contingent as a matter of partisanship, if nothing else.
Given his “Drain The Swamp” mantra, I think he was shocked to begin seeing the actual extent of the rot, and the degree to which it had ruined so much of the GOP as an effective opposition party, and to find how ready those GOP elites were to turn on him, partisan bonds notwithstanding.
Generally, I observe that most Americans are still talking and thinking about Washington as a left-right tug-of-war. In Reality, it’s THREE principle parties: left, right-labeled left-aides, and right.
Just go away already.
Though I'm still sticking with my assessment that many of The Don's fans have a non-helpful attitude toward other good R hopefuls. The diseased and dying GOP elite are/were bad enough. We don't need any new royal lines.
Trump is a man like any other. A bigger than life personality, to be sure. With both huge victories and deadly mistakes on his politician scorecard to date. He is far from flawless.
In fact, I feel it's quite possible he will not politically survive his SwampVax fiasco. He still talks about it like he personally gave birth to the world's medical savior. In reality, he had a disgustingly sweaty, swampy threesome with BigGovt and BigPharma and instead delivered Rosemary's baby.
Trump is very analogous to Rosemary. Everyone around her, family, doctors and experts lied to her and conspired against her. In the end, she knows the kid is the spawn of Satan and can see his hooves. But she still wants to rock his cradle because it comes from her too.
The sin of pride is not just for the gender-confused.
I have liked Elder when I've seen him. There exist logical reasons to not vote for him over Trump in a primary. Mostly because he already lost to Gov HairGel once and the Gov is most likely the Dem nominee in 24.
Simply not being Trump is not a valid reason to dislike or discount Larry and anyone else. They are both politicians. Nobody deserves to be anointed president - even if it was stolen from you once. Ideally, we have lots of candidates with lots of ideas and arguments why they should win.
Politicians come and go. The slavish devotion to one of them rather than to our Free Republican ideals of individual Freedom and small central govt is not a great long term strategy.
I'm voting for the R nominee regardless. Some Trump fans say they won't vote if he is not the nominee. That is even less mature than the never-Trump attitude.
Your thoughts track along with mine; we agree far more than disagree. I share the dismay in Trump’s failure to see the bigger picture surrounding the COVID drugs. His cleaving to them being great and glorious despite any and all bad press, despite suppression of dissent, despite all the crap — especially seeing that in parallel to his stance on Election 2020 where the press was similarly used as a blunt-force weapon to quash dissent — is very dismaying.
I’m not in the “Trump no matter what” camp, and I’m not even convinced that camp is very large; it seems it’s purported size is driven more by Trump’s enemies than by his true friends. The Never-Trump cabal has distinct motivation to portray all of Trump’s supporters as mindless ‘bots who would stand behind him even if he did truly abhorrent things, which SHOULD be manifestly untrue.
For the present topic, I think Elder MIGHT dip a toe in the water in the Primary, but he should go in with intent to solidify support behind whoever the Nominee ends up being; a divided camp, as we got when Perot ran, would be the most damaging eventuality of all.
Here’s another little tidbit that touches on an element in this discussion:
Alex Berenson posted a review of the book “Warp Speed” to his Substack (the entire thing is subscriber only content, sorry), but I went to Amazon and they have cancelled all but the five-star reviews; the numbers show in the little graph thing that shows the percentage breakdown, but you CANNOT see the four-star or the one-star reviews.
DISSENT from The Official Narrative has been, and STILL is, utterly PROHIBITED at Amazon.
Trump likely would NEVER have been president if not for me and my fellow R voters in Wisconsin having that mature attitude above.
Slash and burn candidate Trump was a bit of an ass toward Wisconsin's best gov ever, Walker, in the 16 primary. Walker had an even better immigration plan than Trump and was actually an early leader of that primary - but Walker mismanaged money and message and crashed. Cruz then slaughtered The Don in WI in the 16 primary.
But we cheese-eaters did the mature thing and voted for Trump in the general. No regrets. Though I would still vote for Walker over Trump any day. Walker fought and actually beat the swamp in WI - BigEducation and the teacher unions. And then Walker beat them again when they got wide national support to try to recall him.
Trump is not a Freedom-oriented guy by nature, nor a small govt guy. He is rather a populist. Fortunately, a populist that loves America in general. He's just not very committed to what actually makes America great by definition - individual Freedom. As opposed to whatever he defines as greatness - mostly in economic, military terms.
So he does not seem to understand why Warp Speed was such a bad idea - regardless if the SwampVax actually had worked as advertised, which it clearly has failed to do.
Recall, he also thought TrumpRyanCare was Great, too. And he bad-mouthed the only good people in DC who helped us avoid it - the HFC.
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