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To: TBP

Just as they weren’t concerning the Washington Redskins.

“New poll finds 9 in 10 Native Americans aren’t offended by Redskins name”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/new-poll-finds-9-in-10-native-americans-arent-offended-by-redskins-name/2016/05/18/3ea11cfa-161a-11e6-924d-838753295f9a_story.html


4 posted on 09/28/2022 5:53:42 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

We went through this with the Redskins. The media would repeatedly poll Native Americans on the name and they would overwhelmingly oppose change, and they would overwhelmingly NOT be offended. So the media would whitesplain to them why they were actually offended, but just didn’t know it.

Nobody wants this except a few self-righteous, holier-than-thou #woke activists.


42 posted on 09/28/2022 6:55:17 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: cranked

Vast, large majorities of “Native Americans” not only say they’re not offended by “Native American” team names, but are proud of them, but #woke whitefolk (progressives) decided that they, and not the group in question, get to decide what offends the group in question, rather than the members of that group. That is racist.

I guess the affected minority not being offended interferes with the #progressives #VirtueSignalling and their superiority complex. #Totalitarians don’t like it when you stand up to them, whether they’re Cubans, Haitians, Chinese, or woke white progressives.


45 posted on 09/28/2022 7:04:10 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: cranked

https://www.facebook.com/vanagilbert/posts/10219809436853083

“It’s a very sad day for Cleveland. Today we lay to rest the Cleveland Indians. The owners will now call the team the Cleveland Guardians, (should be the Cleveland Sell Outs.) Even though we saw it coming, and we should have been prepared, it still seems as if we’re losing a member of our family. For me the tribe represented something that I was able to identify with. Being Choctaw, it was a team who represented me, something to be proud of. But someone at the offices in Cleveland took the bait and decided it was now shameful to be Indian and I should be ashamed of who I am. I was born and raised in Cleveland area, spent 35 years there... the Cleveland Indians were the tribe that raised me. It was great to go to ball games and see others proud of a team that represented who I was as well. So many bonding friendships were made over Tribe games. Even when I moved from Ohio I continued to be a Tribe fan. Going to see them in Arlington when they played the Rangers. It was awesome seeing the number of people here who were Tribe fans when I moved to southeastern Oklahoma 15 years ago. (As well as Redskin, Chiefs and Braves fans.) These were teams who represented us. That is all a thing of the past now. A new generation has decided they are hurt and offended... sometimes it seems by the very light of day. I wish the City of Cleveland all the best with this decision to politicize baseball and remove a source of pride for so many. But since I have no tie to this new team or the statues on the bridge it represents, to me it’s just another team now. Cleveland has taken away the fun and excitement baseball was meant to be. RIP My Tribe. 😞 Well remember the good times.”


46 posted on 09/28/2022 7:05:07 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: cranked

https://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2021/07/25/ohio-sheriff-with-cherokee-wife-says-indians-name-change-is-disgusting/

“Portage County Sheriff Bruce D. Zuchowski today is speaking out against the Cleveland Indians changing their team name to the “Guardians” after the 2021 season. Zuchowski, whose wife is part Cherokee and Blackfoot says the Indians name does not offend American Indians.

‘I felt compelled to make a statement on behalf of the silent majority,” Sheriff Zuchowski said. “For the past few days, the release has been weighing heavy on my mind with disappointment and hopelessness. I thought back to the roots of baseball – an American family tradition. Sometimes referred to as America’s National Pastime, the game of baseball has played an active role in our nation for centuries.’”


48 posted on 09/28/2022 7:06:06 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: cranked

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3979465/posts?page=32#32

“I’m Cherokee. But I’m NOT “on the role”, therefore NOT a member of the tribe. Because of the “Dawes Act”. Anyway... This recent crap about sports names are the same damned thing! These people doing these things don’t give a flying crap about us, it’s JUST an excuse to do what they want!”


50 posted on 09/28/2022 7:07:36 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: cranked

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3979465/posts?page=34#34

“Naming something after something or somebody usually expresses reverence.

Pretty much anybody would love to have a team named after them!

Are New England Patriots making derogatory statement about Patriots? Are lions, tigers. cardinals or oilers supposed to be upset?

I would think, the purging of “native” symbols from US sports is really derogatory to them!

By the way the main Navaho high school in AZ has a team named, guess what?, Redskins!”


51 posted on 09/28/2022 7:08:27 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: cranked

There is no one more racist than #woke white people.


52 posted on 09/28/2022 7:09:04 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: cranked

56 posted on 09/28/2022 7:15:23 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: cranked

https://www.valleybreeze.com/opinion/new-mexico-s-navajos-say-chieftains-is-fine/article_ac76ebd6-2b47-11ec-bd75-234c0c7bcb27.html

I was reminded of a controversy last spring at Ponaganset High School as I drove through New Mexico on vacation two weeks ago. As The Breeze reported in May, “The issue (of Native American insult) arose again after members of the local Nipmuc tribe contacted the Rhode Island Commission on Prejudice and Bias to mediate with PHS for the removal of the mascot, which depicts the head of a chieftain wearing a headdress.”

I was driving through Shiprock, in northwest New Mexico, and noted that Shiprock High, right there on Route 64, was “Home of the Chieftains.” Interestingly, the school sat right in the middle of a Navajo reservation. You’d think Navajos might have had a say in that, and likely see no insult.

I checked in with Sports Editor Steven Bortstein at the Farmington (N.M.) Daily-Times to see if there had been a problem there with the name, as this new era of “offense” and political correctness sweeps the land. He replied, in part, “In my many discussions with people of different persuasions and political and social ideologies, the nickname Chieftains is not considered to be offensive to a majority of those I’ve spoken with. Those with whom I have spoken are not offended by Chieftains, they’re not offended by Warriors, they’re not offended by Chiefs or Indians.”


57 posted on 09/28/2022 7:19:33 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: cranked

Of the native Americans (mostly Navajo) I’ve seen Redskins and Raider were the team jackets of choice. The Cowboys not so much. :)


58 posted on 09/28/2022 7:22:14 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim ( )
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To: cranked

https://www.newsmax.com/GeorgeWill/Native-Americans-Redskins-tolerance/2014/06/30/id/579957/

“Amanda Blackhorse, a Navajo who successfully moved a federal agency to withdraw trademark protections from the Washington Redskins because it considers the team’s name derogatory, lives on a reservation where Navajos root for the Red Mesa High School Redskins. She opposes this name; the Native Americans who picked and retain it evidently do not.

The Patent and Trademark Office acted on a 1946 law banning trademarks that “may disparage” persons. “May” gives the agency latitude to disregard evidence regarding how many people actually feel disparaged, or feel that others should feel disparaged.

Blackhorse speaks of “the majority of Native American people who have spoken out on this.” This would seem implausible even if a 2004 poll had not found that 90 percent of Native Americans were not offended by the Redskins’ name. A 2013 AP-GfK poll showed that 79 percent of Americans of all ethnicities opposed changing it, and just 18 percent of “nonwhite football fans” favored changing it.

The federal agency acted in the absence of general or Native American revulsion about “Redskins,” and probably because of this absence. Are the Americans who are paying attention to this controversy comfortable with government saying, in effect, that if people are not offended, they should be, so government must decide what uses of language should be punished?

In today’s regulatory state, agencies often do pretty much as they please, exercising discretion unconstrained by law.”


59 posted on 09/28/2022 7:22:19 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: cranked

White liberals: When a black person tells you he/she is not oppressed, don’t whitesplain why they are. When Native Americans say that Native American team names don’t offend them, don’t whitesplain why they actually do. Stop telling minorities what their lived experience is.


61 posted on 09/28/2022 7:26:28 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: cranked

What do we make of white people who think it’s their job

to tell black people how to be black
to tell Native Americans what offends them
to tell Latins how to be Latin?

Is there a word for that?


62 posted on 09/28/2022 7:27:07 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: cranked

There is a high school on the Navajo reservation, with a 98 percent Navajo student body, called Red Mesa High School. Their teams are called the Redskins. Boy, those Navajos must hate Native Americans!


63 posted on 09/28/2022 7:28:40 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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