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With Nord Stream gone, where will Europe get its gas?
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Posted on 10/02/2022 5:36:16 AM PDT by FarCenter

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To: kiryandil

“There are 642 LNG tankers in the world”

641 active LNG

(www.MaritimeCyprus.com) There were 641 active LNG vessels as of end-April 2022, including 45 FSRUs and five floating storage units (FSUs). The global fleet grew by 9.9% with the delivery of 57 carriers and four FSRUs in 2021.Aug 8, 2022


81 posted on 10/02/2022 10:38:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Anyone, who can make you believe in absurdities, can make you commit atrocities!!" ~ (Voltaire)!, )
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To: Grampa Dave
The new Baltic pipe will deliver 10 MCM annually, I think.

The Nordstream 1 pipeline was delivering 55 MCM annually, and the Nordstream 2 pipeline was supposed to deliver 55 MCM annually.

10,000,000 m3
55,000,000 m3
55,000,000 m3

172,600 m3 is the consumption of Sweden for a month

In 2017, Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering delivered the Christophe de Margerie, an icebreaking LNG tanker of 80,200 deadweight tons. Her capacity of 172,600 m3 (6,100,000 cu ft) is the consumption of Sweden for a month.

She completed her first revenue voyage from Norway via the Northern Sea Route in the Arctic Ocean to South Korea. The shipyard has fourteen more on order.

82 posted on 10/02/2022 11:00:57 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

Thanks for this data.


83 posted on 10/02/2022 11:02:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Anyone, who can make you believe in absurdities, can make you commit atrocities!!" ~ (Voltaire)!, )
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To: Grampa Dave

I’ve noticed that the energy Pollyannas don’t deal in actual numbers...


84 posted on 10/02/2022 11:08:40 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

“I’ve noticed that the energy Pollyannas don’t deal in actual numbers...”

They believe in the Green Magic instead of actual/real numbers.


85 posted on 10/02/2022 11:30:19 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Anyone, who can make you believe in absurdities, can make you commit atrocities!!" ~ (Voltaire)!, )
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To: bert

I will go with the old USA. If Germany pulls out then Europe pulls out of the great “Make Russia the Bad Guy” alliance. Germany is for Germans and Germans are for Germany. If it comes down to buy Russian gas or destroy their entire economy then the Germans would buy the damn gas Ukraine be damned. We know it, Germany knows it, the Russians know it, the world knows it. We made the choice for them and now they are stuck.

The interesting thing will be if Europe decides we are more evil than Russia? That is what the deliberations and the next 6 months will determine. If German economy crashes, the European economy may crash. If that happens, Europe may turn against the USA. Exception being Ukraine(obviously), UK, Poland and the Baltic states. UK due to politics the rest due to protection rackets.

Just my opinion and it may be wrong. I often am, will be in the future. Everyone needs to expect natural gas to get expensive as we try to keep Germany afloat so Europe doesn’t get tired of our forever wars coming into their back yards and screwing them. Thank goodness for the greenies. They have no feet in reality and will continue to hug their windmills and solar panels until they freeze. They could care less about the economy until they starve. Insane idiots that they are. Stupid City dwellers.


86 posted on 10/02/2022 11:39:46 AM PDT by wgmalabama (Censored!)
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To: FarCenter

The WH knows!! That is part of the reason they destroyed the gas lines. https://www.rt.com/news/563861-blinken-nord-stream-opportunity/


87 posted on 10/02/2022 1:10:27 PM PDT by elpadre (W )
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To: Grampa Dave

Wow. Actual data and useful info - instead of ranting and misinformed apologetics.


88 posted on 10/02/2022 6:09:55 PM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: patriotfury

Interesting video.

He makes the point that it would be so much easier to blow the pipelines using the maintenance ‘pigs’ instead of coming by boat or submarine and placing charges.

But then he assumes that it means that Russia did it. Why?
The ‘pigs’ can be inserted into the pipeline at both ends, From the Russian side, and from the German side, so it is equally possible that ‘pigs’ were weaponized and inserted in the pipeline side of Germany.

In other words, we still have no clue as to who did it.


89 posted on 10/03/2022 11:13:21 AM PDT by Toughluck_freeper
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To: Owen

I have been out of the seat for a couple of years, but there is a lot more than I can post online, until it becomes evident the info has been let out, de-classified, or leaked out (there’s some pun)

NS1 and NS2 have since the beginning, remained in practice a Russian version of South China Sea weaponized islands in foreign territorial and open waters.

Russia SOP for the pipeline route has seen non-stop sensoring (internal and external), including heavy naval Loitering and penetration of everyone’s territorial waters.

Here are just a few more “dots” —

NS1 was completely off through September, as you are already aware.

From August 27 to September 3-4, 2022, Russia was scheduled and observed (monitored) all along NS1 and NS2 by US/NATO non-airbreather LEO ISR sensors, as well as air-breather ISR sensors. The reason we had to rely on air and sat sensors near completely was due to a long scheduled and published NATO ASW/anti-mine exercise over in Portugal as you will see below.

However, the scheduled AUG 27 to SEP 3-4 maintenance continued all the way up to 19-20 SEP 2022.

Here is what was supposed to happen -

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/new-russia-gas-halt-tighten-energy-screws-europe-2022-08-30/

While scheduled “maintenance” was to last until September 3, 2022, it was stretched all the way to this —

https://www.navaltoday.com/2022/09/20/russian-navys-baltic-fleet-ships-hunt-down-enemy-subs/

Which included Russian anti-ASW anti-mine hunter “vettes” like is seen here —

https://www.plenglish.com/news/2022/06/09/russian-baltic-fleet-launches-military-maneuvers/

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2022/june/11848-two-russian-navy-s-corvettes-enter-danish-territorial-waters.html

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2022/june/11866-russian-navy-grad-missile-ship-to-join-baltic-fleet-by-yearend.html

https://youtu.be/S1NI1iOOixc

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-hold-major-navy-drills-involving-all-its-fleets-2022-01-20/

Typically, these types of vessels have been used to keep NATO surface warfare naval surveillance assets away, and they got away with it due to German and EU energy dependency.

However, as stated above, almost all non-statoc NATO surface and sub surface assets were clear over in the Atlantic, on a large scale non-classified 1.5 year scheduled exercise linked here —

MARCOM
Exercise Location - Troia, Portugal

https://mc.nato.int/media-centre/news/2022/dynamic-messenger-22-nato-unmanned-maritime-systems-exercise

Involved 18 NATO ASW / anti-sea mine vessels, and 48 published underwater assets, and included myltiple university and R&D orgs. Officially began on 25 SEP 2022.

Many of the false reports which were pervasive this past week, and predominantly originating from FSB and SVR NGO’s, claimed to have spotted NATO ASW and anti-mine vessels, but these were actually in Portugal, and nowhere near Bornholm.

I used the Open Source NATO ship numbers from the actual ship photos being posted as though taken from Bornholm, plugged them in, and tracked from this link, which actually does work despite the 404 warning —

https://www.marinevesseltraffic.com/2013/02/military-sh

The exact ships (locations and detailed schedules) had been, and were within 150nm from Troia, Portugal.

Online photo’s of ships were real, but from the past several years.

There is much more, but I gotta run for a bit...


90 posted on 10/03/2022 1:44:45 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: Owen

I have been out of the seat for a couple of years, but there is a lot more than I can post online, until it becomes evident the info has been let out, de-classified, or leaked out (there’s some pun)

NS1 and NS2 have since the beginning, remained in practice a Russian version of South China Sea weaponized islands in foreign territorial and open waters.

Russia SOP for the pipeline route has seen non-stop sensoring (internal and external), including heavy naval Loitering and penetration of everyone’s territorial waters.

Here are just a few more “dots” —

NS1 was completely off through September, as you are already aware.

From August 27 to September 3-4, 2022, Russia was scheduled and observed (monitored) all along NS1 and NS2 by US/NATO non-airbreather LEO ISR sensors, as well as air-breather ISR sensors. The reason we had to rely on air and sat sensors near completely was due to a long scheduled and published NATO ASW/anti-mine exercise over in Portugal as you will see below.

However, the scheduled AUG 27 to SEP 3-4 maintenance continued all the way up to 19-20 SEP 2022.

Here is what was supposed to happen -

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/new-russia-gas-halt-tighten-energy-screws-europe-2022-08-30/

While scheduled “maintenance” was to last until September 3, 2022, it was stretched all the way to this —

https://www.navaltoday.com/2022/09/20/russian-navys-baltic-fleet-ships-hunt-down-enemy-subs/

Which included Russian anti-ASW anti-mine hunter “vettes” like is seen here —

https://www.plenglish.com/news/2022/06/09/russian-baltic-fleet-launches-military-maneuvers/

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2022/june/11848-two-russian-navy-s-corvettes-enter-danish-territorial-waters.html

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2022/june/11866-russian-navy-grad-missile-ship-to-join-baltic-fleet-by-yearend.html

https://youtu.be/S1NI1iOOixc

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-hold-major-navy-drills-involving-all-its-fleets-2022-01-20/

Typically, these types of vessels have been used to keep NATO surface warfare naval surveillance assets away, and they got away with it due to German and EU energy dependency.

However, as stated above, almost all non-statoc NATO surface and sub surface assets were clear over in the Atlantic, on a large scale non-classified 1.5 year scheduled exercise linked here —

MARCOM
Exercise Location - Troia, Portugal

https://mc.nato.int/media-centre/news/2022/dynamic-messenger-22-nato-unmanned-maritime-systems-exercise

Involved 18 NATO ASW / anti-sea mine vessels, and 48 published underwater assets, and included myltiple university and R&D orgs. Officially began on 25 SEP 2022.

Many of the false reports which were pervasive this past week, and predominantly originating from FSB and SVR NGO’s, claimed to have spotted NATO ASW and anti-mine vessels, but these were actually in Portugal, and nowhere near Bornholm.

I used the Open Source NATO ship numbers from the actual ship photos being posted as though taken from Bornholm, plugged them in, and tracked from this link, which actually does work despite the 404 warning —

https://www.marinevesseltraffic.com/2013/02/military-sh

The exact ships (locations and detailed schedules) had been, and were within 150nm from Troia, Portugal.

Online photo’s of ships were real, but from the past several years.

There is much more, but I gotta run for a bit...


91 posted on 10/03/2022 1:44:46 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: AAABEST; kiryandil

Wow. “Actual data and useful info - instead of ranting and misinformed apologetics.”

Some of us try to post actual data and useful info.

Sometimes we succeed. Sometimes we fail.

Thanks for your comments.


92 posted on 10/04/2022 9:50:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Anyone, who can make you believe in absurdities, can make you commit atrocities!!" ~ (Voltaire)!, )
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