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So if the IRS destroys your return will they then prosecute you for failing to file?
1 posted on 10/07/2022 10:10:53 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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This is the first I have ever heard about it.
I would have expected at least somebody like Rand Paul, Ted Cruz or Mike Lee to have been making some noise about it.


2 posted on 10/07/2022 10:28:18 PM PDT by lee martell
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The IRS is getting smarter—and more desperate. A few years ago they were caught stuffing thousands of unprocessed tax returns into their service center drop ceiling because they couldn’t keep up. Now they destroy them—nothing left to process.


3 posted on 10/07/2022 10:28:56 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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“I see you have some money. Give it to me.”


4 posted on 10/07/2022 10:32:30 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Fox News is CNN-Lite.)
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With the obvious two tiered system of injustice we now have it should be clear that the IRS is going to be used to repress Republicans. Lots of Republicans requires lots of tyrants to get them.


6 posted on 10/07/2022 10:42:20 PM PDT by Nateman (If Mohammad was not the Anti Christ he definitely comes in as a strong second..)
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Deja-Vue!
I remember when several ATF workers did the same thing with NFA forms.
The miscreants were “Transferred to less stressful duties”.
No one was punished in any way.

The same result will be seen here.


7 posted on 10/07/2022 10:44:10 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Free thinking is now a radical concept, I will not be assimilated by PC or EV groupthink!)
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The swamp wants to bury us all.


11 posted on 10/07/2022 11:07:53 PM PDT by Bullish (Rot'sa Ruck America. )
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How many years back?
2020, 2019, 2018 etc. What if you did not file say 2018, would the IRS know one way or another as records are destroyed.
Do they know what records were destroyed?

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The IRS responded the 30 million destroyed returns were only 1 percent of the total information returns filed, and they were destroyed due to a software limitation and to make room for 2021 tax filing season documents.

The IRS also claims “[t]here were no negative taxpayer consequences as a result of this action,” and taxpayers will not be subject to penalties resulting from the IRS’s actions. Perhaps there were no negative consequences for those whose documents were destroyed, and maybe even some benefit if they underreported income.
https://www.crapo.senate.gov/news/in-the-news/weekly-column-why-did-the-irs-destroy-30-million-paper-returns


14 posted on 10/07/2022 11:35:02 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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No.

If you’ve filed, you have records you’ve filed. You also have treasury check info or checks to the irs through your bank.


15 posted on 10/07/2022 11:35:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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National Sales Tax....everyone would contribute something.

Get rid of everything other tax.


16 posted on 10/07/2022 11:35:42 PM PDT by qaz123
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so question: if there are so many they can’t even process them, why are we being forced to file them?


19 posted on 10/08/2022 12:13:41 AM PDT by dadfly
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That was the first question I had.

It would not surprise me in the least.


22 posted on 10/08/2022 12:27:19 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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Im sure all those filings are hand picked and donors to the dnc


25 posted on 10/08/2022 3:02:21 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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That may be why a brother of mine has never received his 2021 refund, and inquiries with the IRS have been met with literally “I don’t know” kind of answers every time.


27 posted on 10/08/2022 4:12:35 AM PDT by Wuli (uires )
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It’s like when Newman had too much mail and didn’t deliver.


30 posted on 10/08/2022 4:39:07 AM PDT by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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Any bets on if the destroyed fillings align with dem donors who fraudulently received PPP loans ?


33 posted on 10/08/2022 5:16:31 AM PDT by daku
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There is an unmentioned factor.

The returns in question were apparently paper returns. The electronically filed returns were not and could not be destroyed. The IRS is apparently saying we deal only with electronically filed returns.


34 posted on 10/08/2022 5:20:51 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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When I googled (actually duck duck go-ed) "Information Return Form Number", the only forms that came back were things like 1098's, 1099's, 5498. None of those were actual income tax returns, like a 1040, 1065, 1120, 990.

In other words, if you have a small business and pay contractors more than $600 in one calendar year, you are supposed to send each contractor a 1099-NEC or whatever, and send copies to the feds. That is supposed to be the source of a match between what you claim as expenses, and the contractors claim as income. If you are small enough, sending paper copies to the government is easier, faster and cheaper than doing it electronically.

What that means is that the government won't bother trying to match the spender's copy to the income claimer's copy. They apparently will rely on intimidation to have most contractors claim the income.

The article would have been vastly improved with an illustration of what an information return is, but that is probably asking too much.

35 posted on 10/08/2022 5:45:02 AM PDT by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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This is really interesting. It seems like millions of CP2000 forms will not be issued because ... the document matching system will not include the information that indicates under-reporting.
Think of it as some more Covid relief?
And more good news is that fewer tax-filers will be hassled by the IRS because of this.


42 posted on 10/08/2022 11:32:15 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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