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To: Chainmail

War Is Hell as General Sherman put it.

If Ukraine wants to attack a Russian bridge like it did on Saturday be my guest.

But don’t play the victim card Ukraine when Russia chooses to strike back.

If you stand the heat don’t get in the kitchen.


9 posted on 10/10/2022 7:21:15 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Nextrush; aMorePerfectUnion
--- "If Ukraine wants to attack a Russian bridge like it did on Saturday be my guest. But don't play the victim card Ukraine when Russia chooses to strike back."

aMorePerfectUnion commented as well, "Putin is flanked by hard liners who want to see toughness and victory. Zelensky is flanked by the globohomos who want to provoke war."

I think this all very apt. As the two schoolyard bullies rage, there is NO solution in taking sides with the smaller over the larger per se. The war between them will come one of three ways, if NATO does not screw Europe to WWIII.

As to the larger-smaller narrative, earlier the Ukraine against Donetsk civil war is an inversion of the storytelling, big versus little. Interesting how that is forgotten in the "fog of war." Options seem as follows: 1) Russia wins, and Ukraine surrenders. 2) Ukraine wins somehow, and Russia retreats. 3) A negotiation in earnest and in which both sides state some degree of satisfaction is concluded. I suspect the third is now well off the table, thanks to the US State Department and the Obama-Biden lust for their own "leadership."

16 posted on 10/10/2022 7:32:45 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow Government)
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To: Nextrush; All
But don’t play the victim card Ukraine when Russia chooses to strike back.

Ukraine did not invade Russia.

Russia invaded Ukraine, as it has done before, when Russia believed the USA was weak and Ukraine would not respond effectively.

Russia has repeatedly "played the victim card" in this war.

36 posted on 10/10/2022 7:50:19 AM PDT by marktwain
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