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Russians refusing to fight in Ukraine flee country but long for home
MSN ^ | 10-23 | Corky Siemaszko

Posted on 10/23/2022 6:50:54 PM PDT by dennisw

The young Russians who fled their country for neighboring Kazakhstan to avoid being conscripted to fight in Ukraine all want to go home one day. They just don’t know when that will be.

Russians refusing to fight in Ukraine flee country but long for home

“I feel very sad, because, actually, I love Russia,” a 25-year-old Muscovite told NBC News in the biggest city in Kazakhstan, Almaty, a prime destination for Russians avoiding conscription. “Maybe I stay here two or three months. I don’t know.”

Like the other wary exiles NBC News spoke with, the young Muscovite asked not to be identified by name because he fears the consequences of defying President Vladimir Putin’s order to report for duty.

The young man, who was a juggler and a street performer before he left three weeks ago, said he already feels homesick for Mother Russia.

“I can tell you nothing about my future, because I see, like, only in two weeks, two weeks further,” he said in halting English.

Putin’s announcement of a military mobilization last month to buttress his forces in Ukraine sparked an exodus of military-age men not just to Kazakhstan but also to Mongolia and the country of Georgia. On Wednesday, Putin declared Russia would impose martial law in the four regions in Ukraine he illegally annexed last month, as his military struggles to maintain its grip on territory amid Ukrainian advances.

Asked what drove him into exile, the Muscovite said: “Well, firstly, because of this conscription stuff happening now in Russia. But mostly because it started to be, like, alarmingly anxious in Russia. … It’s very hard to be creative.”

So the choice came down to “always be anxious or to leave.”

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1 posted on 10/23/2022 6:50:54 PM PDT by dennisw
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The young Russians are opting out Satanic Putin’s meat grinder. The ones fleeing tend to be the more educated. Putin has stimulated a brain drain.


2 posted on 10/23/2022 6:52:50 PM PDT by dennisw (Never attribute to stupidity, what can be attributed to malice)
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To: dennisw

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

https://youtu.be/wlMwc1c0HRQ


3 posted on 10/23/2022 6:54:09 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! )
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaNhyqrJLuo


4 posted on 10/23/2022 6:54:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: dennisw

Welcome to the World of Edward Snowden.


5 posted on 10/23/2022 6:56:04 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: dennisw

No going back to Russia. Might as well play it up as best you can, get on hormone drugs, get the bottom surgery, get on TikTok.


6 posted on 10/23/2022 6:59:53 PM PDT by BusterDog
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To: dennisw

Most of these clowns are ineligible for mobilization. It is nice to see all the buks considering foreign media a legit source of information left. Russia is now a better place.


7 posted on 10/23/2022 7:04:16 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking
Russia is now a better place

if you like a police-state dictatorship that can't stay out of troop-consuming wars ...

just like Nazi Germany ... how many young men from that period are still alive?

these guys know what's going on


8 posted on 10/23/2022 7:09:20 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: BusterDog

Get a front hole and work in Bangkok?...


9 posted on 10/23/2022 7:09:28 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: NorseViking

“Most of these clowns are ineligible for mobilization.”

Well, if you know it, don’t you think they know it, as well? Or does your position with the SVR RF (or is it the FSB?) give you access to something more infernal?


10 posted on 10/23/2022 7:11:24 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: NorseViking
It is now known that in the US, during the Vietnam era, approximately 570,000 young men were classified as draft offenders,....and approximately 210,000 were formally accused of draft dodgers.

I don't think it's as big as deal as their trying to make it for Russians not wanting to serve either. It tends to go with the flow when a conflict breaks out and their called on to serve their country. Which is why I ignore these articles posted about who is or not showing up to fight. Heck Ukrainians were trying to go over the border and or surrendering to Russians in order not to fight. Both sides are guilty of this so it's not a big deal.

11 posted on 10/23/2022 7:15:42 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: dennisw

The Juggler would likely end up a frozen corpes in a few weeks, so its a good call for that guy, but Russia is going to have a talent problem at some point.

They aren’t moving forward and to move forward, they’ll need talent and good equipment. They have WAY less of both now than on Feb 22.


12 posted on 10/23/2022 7:18:02 PM PDT by UNGN
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To: canuck_conservative

What police state? The US has genuine political prisoners - the so called Jan 6 insurrectors. Europe has worse than that. There are no political prisoners in Russia.


13 posted on 10/23/2022 7:23:02 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: ought-six

Mostly the veterans are called from the reserves at the very least with prior service. None of these liberal artists qualify.


14 posted on 10/23/2022 7:25:22 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: caww

These guys aren’t the same as American dodgers. They are simply idiots believing foreign propaganda.


15 posted on 10/23/2022 7:26:05 PM PDT by NorseViking
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Sure they are dodging Putin’s press gangs. No legitimate Russian will go to Putin’s meat grinder. Hence the mass exodus of the conscription aged.

No way you would you report for duty, to fight in Putin’s dumbass wars.


16 posted on 10/23/2022 7:37:29 PM PDT by dennisw (Never attribute to stupidity, what can be attributed to malice)
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To: dennisw

Okay, you are free to believe whatever fairy tales you wish.


17 posted on 10/23/2022 7:41:52 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Those in Russia wanting to skip country in order not to serve their country really are just draft dogers. Whatever colorful excuse they’re giving it’s still the same as anyone wanting to run from serving their country in a time of war or conflict.


18 posted on 10/23/2022 7:47:37 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: dennisw

I know exactly who is refusing to fight....

““The Nazi command has deployed Right Sector units to prevent the Ukrainian Armed Forces from retreating from Artemivsk (Bakhmut). Up to 200 Right Sector fighters have been deployed in this direction and have been ordered to stop the retreat of units of the 93rd Army Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces”
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14075
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“The 128th Mountain Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine paid dearly for yesterday’s attempt to attack. The situation is close to rebellion, they refuse to go forward.

Berislav direction.”
https://t.me/voenacher/31151
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“I think, despite the intensification of exchanges, the number of Ukrainian prisoners of war is growing and growing. I think their number is approaching 8000.”
https://t.me/Sladkov_plus/6538


19 posted on 10/23/2022 7:48:39 PM PDT by cranked
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Ditto from June, seems there is a real pattern of who exactly is refusing to fight.

‘Ukrainian soldiers refusing to fight’
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/06/02/683173/Ukrainian-soldiers-Donbas-Russia-conflict-


20 posted on 10/23/2022 7:54:39 PM PDT by cranked
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