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Big Investors Are Giving Up on Crypto Markets Going Mainstream
Gulf News ^ | 11/13/2022 | staff

Posted on 11/13/2022 7:16:21 PM PST by catnipman

Institutional investors were souring on cryptocurrencies even before this week. The sudden downfall of Sam Bankman-Fried’s FTX.com may have permanently damaged their prospects of being included in mainstream portfolios.

While plenty of industry die-hards remain, many professional money managers are saying the case for crypto as a portfolio diversifier or digital gold has been debunked. The losses are too great and the market structure is too risky, they say.

“What’s become clear is it will not find a home in institutional asset allocation,” said Hani Redha, a multi-asset portfolio manager at Pinebridge Investments in London. “There was a period when it was being considered as a potential asset class that every investor should have in their strategic asset allocation and that’s off the table entirely.”

The implosions and scandals of the past few months have laid waste to the key arguments of crypto boosters, and all but obliterated the notion of Bitcoin as safe haven in turbulent times.

(Excerpt) Read more at gulfnews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: crash; crypto; digitalsnakeoil; mainstream
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One of my biggest fears has been that Magic Internet Money mania would be adopted throughout the existing conventional financial infrastructure as "assets" that that actually possessed some kind of legitimate value, when in fact Magic Internet Money has ZERO actual value, and that subsequently when it was recognized that the Emperor behind the curtain had no clothes, that the entire conventional financial infrastructure would implode like a million Megaton banking bombs ... such an implosion would make previous financial crises look like Sunday school picnics ...

The implosion of Sam Bankman-Fried's FTX global empire did the world a YUGE favor by permanently destroying the notion that Magic Internet Money mania should be included in the world's conventional financial infrastructure ...

1 posted on 11/13/2022 7:16:21 PM PST by catnipman
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Wondering if the feral gubbamint has anything to do with the collapse of crypto. Could it be the digital U.S. dollar is being ushered in and in this process crypto must be taken out.

Just a thought.


2 posted on 11/13/2022 7:18:49 PM PST by servantboy777
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Might be better off allowing Switzerland to go back storing all that dark money again and with full secrecy of the account holder, just like it used to be.
Not likely to happen though.


3 posted on 11/13/2022 7:19:33 PM PST by lee martell
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full article:

https://archive.ph/vwwQb


4 posted on 11/13/2022 7:20:55 PM PST by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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many major central banks have already decided a crypto-type digital currency serves no purpose ... all major currencies are already digital for all practical purposes since their actual cash portions represent a very miniscule proportion of total transactions ...


5 posted on 11/13/2022 7:23:09 PM PST by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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Yeah, but what are the money launderers, politicians, and tax evaders doing?

(Yes, I know all three are often the same individuals).

6 posted on 11/13/2022 7:23:39 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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Big Investors Are Giving Up on Crypto Markets Going Mainstream

that's odd.      just because cripto is a ponzi is no reason to give up on it!

after all, Big Investors are totally dumbocrap, biggest fraudsters ever


7 posted on 11/13/2022 7:25:53 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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Mt Gox? Yeah, that certainly destroyed any hope of crypto becoming used and usable. Of course FTX and Mt Gox and almost all the other failures were exchanges where speculators were trying to get rich.

Trying to get rich from crypto by letting someone else keep your crypto is against the entire principle of crypto. If you don't control your private keys you own nothing and deserve nothing.

Well this will pass and crypto will keep limping along until there's a better way to do echanges and then take off again.

8 posted on 11/13/2022 7:29:46 PM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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JPMorgan has a crypto desk. As do all of the major investment banks.

FTX was a shit show. The BIG banks had nothing to do with an exchange run by some Crypto-kid.

This is a washing out process. The grown ups are coming in. Quietly.


9 posted on 11/13/2022 7:31:43 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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You have three areas in the financial sector in the US that can make you money.

1) Hedge Finance- keep your ass glued to these guys because they’ll make you money no matter the era.

2) Speculative Finance- these guys gamble a little more but can really make you some good earnings, but stick to the players in this group connected to group #1.

3) Ponzi Finance- these guys teach good lessons about how not to invest because their financial model is unsustainable. Their financing never holds up.

“Never buy on ‘the noise’ because often its too late.”


10 posted on 11/13/2022 7:32:43 PM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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>>all major currencies are already digital for all practical purposes since their actual cash portions represent a very miniscule proportion of total transactions<<

True, however Americans still hold autonomy. If/when the digital USD is instituted, folks should be worried...very worried.


11 posted on 11/13/2022 7:33:54 PM PST by servantboy777
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Yup, Ponzi scheme.

What else would you call buying air and planning to sell air at a higher price?

12 posted on 11/13/2022 7:35:09 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston Churchill)
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Over time, I’ve come to believe the anonymous Satoshi Nakamoto was simply a creation of the Central Bankers and/ NWO people to get us used to a digital currency, digital contracts, digital ID, digital everything. Saves them a bunch of money while giving them complete control over us.


13 posted on 11/13/2022 7:40:31 PM PST by Pollard (Worm & GMO Free - some call us purebloods)
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At least with tulip mania, you got a tulip bub.


14 posted on 11/13/2022 7:43:39 PM PST by Flick Lives (Cui bono)
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Gold is the Original Crypto Currency


15 posted on 11/13/2022 7:56:15 PM PST by webheart
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At least with tulip mania, you got a tulip bub.

let's be fair--with the cripto ponzi fraud you do get this:




16 posted on 11/13/2022 7:57:05 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: T.B. Yoits; All
"Yeah, but what are the money launderers, politicians, and tax evaders doing?"

Ukraine invested in top Dem donor's crypto company FTX as Biden admin funded war effort

10% for the big guy?

🤔

17 posted on 11/13/2022 7:58:15 PM PST by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATI6ON. Never be a peaceful slave in new Socialist America.)
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The banking cabal were never going to allow the competition.


18 posted on 11/13/2022 8:01:38 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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10% for the big guy?

10% for the big guy
70% for the dumbocrap party
10% for hunters crack habit/hoes
10% to transport ukes to their slaughter


19 posted on 11/13/2022 8:10:31 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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20 posted on 11/13/2022 8:10:40 PM PST by Theoria
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