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Russia Rejects Ukraine’s Negotiating Terms
The Moscow Times ^ | Nov. 15, 2022

Posted on 11/15/2022 5:30:24 AM PST by Salohcin

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To: Salohcin

Ukraine will unconditionally surrender or cease existing.


41 posted on 11/15/2022 8:36:00 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Well, with that statement the entire concept of a reasonable negotiating position just flew out the window.


42 posted on 11/15/2022 9:08:40 AM PST by Salohcin
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To: Gen.Blather

Russia’s rocket attacks reminds me of Travis at the Alamo, when asked to surrender the old Mission, he fired a cannon ball at the Mexican forces. The war will continue until one side wins, and one side loses.


43 posted on 11/15/2022 10:12:22 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: cranked

Welp, two russian missles just landed in Poland, killing two people. Good shootin’ Ivan, but the hornets’ nest you hit might have something to say about it.


44 posted on 11/15/2022 10:22:39 AM PST by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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To: Kazan
Ukraine will unconditionally surrender or cease existing.

Just out of morbid curiosity, what color is the sky in your world?
45 posted on 11/15/2022 10:23:47 AM PST by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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To: lump in the melting pot

Drama Queen.


46 posted on 11/15/2022 12:35:20 PM PST by cranked
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To: cranked

Your monkeys are the ones who keep missing legit military targets and killing civilians instead; now in neighboring countries as well.


47 posted on 11/15/2022 1:02:13 PM PST by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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To: lump in the melting pot

Yo, Drama Queen, idiocy comes from being uninformed.
Inform yourself....

“The Rescue Service of Poland published a photo of the debrief in Przewodów

It looks like a debrief of S-300”
https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1592596573011136512

And then scroll down for what an S-300 debrief looks like.
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“A fragment of a rocket that fell in Poland belongs to the S-300 air defense system

The first photo shows a fragment of a rocket that fell in Poland

The second photo shows the wreckage of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile, which fell in Dagestan on 08.10.20 during the Karabakh war”
https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1592602013858435072


48 posted on 11/15/2022 1:03:32 PM PST by cranked
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To: cranked

Kh-101


49 posted on 11/15/2022 2:00:09 PM PST by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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To: lump in the melting pot

Photo evidence proves otherwise, Drama Queen.
Where your photo evidence(s)?

I’ll wait here while you retrieve it.....


50 posted on 11/15/2022 2:04:11 PM PST by cranked
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To: lump in the melting pot

‘A more thorough set of comparisons, identifying the fragment as a component (the end seal) of the 48D6 motor of the 5V55 rocket for the S-300 SAM system. This is an older one found in the Ukrainian inventory.’
https://twitter.com/snekotron/status/1592628488028422144


51 posted on 11/15/2022 2:04:40 PM PST by cranked
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To: lump in the melting pot
Red. Red Skies at Night.

Ukraine hasn't won a single battle in this war. They have only gained ground in places Russia decided weren't worth defending at any given time.

Russia owns the air space. Ukraine lacks adequate air defense. The West is running out of ammo and weapons to give Ukraine. Ukraine is dependent on Western handouts to remain afloat economically. It's electric grid is barely functioning.

52 posted on 11/15/2022 3:11:09 PM PST by Kazan
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Ukraine had their chance to negotiate in March, came close to making a deal that would have saved the country and Biden and Boris Johnson prevent it from doing so.

There is NO chance Russia is going to give up the territory that has been annexed. Nor will Russia tolerate a military threat in what is left of Ukraine. Beyond that, everything else is up for negotiation.

53 posted on 11/15/2022 3:14:27 PM PST by Kazan
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54 posted on 11/15/2022 3:41:28 PM PST by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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To: lump in the melting pot

Strange how even your lame ass propaganda ridden media calling your BS.....but you continue to plug away, NAFO Drama Queen.


55 posted on 11/15/2022 10:52:03 PM PST by cranked
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To: Kazan

“The West” has orders of magnitude more money and weapons than that third world nation with Moscow and St Petersburg attached.


56 posted on 11/15/2022 11:22:24 PM PST by Dat
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To: Dat

In your wet dreams maybe.


57 posted on 11/15/2022 11:31:53 PM PST by cranked
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To: cranked

Gee, really “up” on Russia, aren’t you?

Almost like you are not in a Western country, isn’t it?

FR needs to get rid of all of you Russian operatives, or at least Russia needs to find ones that are at least a little bit subtle.


58 posted on 11/15/2022 11:59:52 PM PST by Dat
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To: Dat

“FR needs to get rid of all of you Russian operatives, or at least Russia needs to find ones that are at least a little bit subtle”

You are an FR member and advocating censorship.
Yo, you need to carry your collective fake Freeper arse back to DU....


59 posted on 11/16/2022 12:02:27 AM PST by cranked
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To: Dat
Really?

https://sonar21.com/angry-turks-talking-turkey-in-turkiye/

One final data point (also noted by Andrei Martyanov and Moon of Alabama) — the United States no longer has excess 155 mm howitzer shells to send to Ukraine and is looking to South Korea to pony up 100,000 rounds:

News of the transfer, first reported by the Wall Street Journal, comes as the US has warned that North Korea is secretly supplying Russia with artillery shells for the war in Ukraine. The intended transfers from both Pyongyang and Seoul highlight the pressure the war has put on the defense industrial bases of US and Russia.

“There’s no question that it’s put pressure on our own stockpiles,” said Colin Kahl, Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, speaking to reporters at a virtual meeting of George Washington University’s Project for Media and National Security. “It’s put pressure on our own industrial base. That’s been true of our allies.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/11/politics/us-artillery-south-korea-ukraine

If you think that 100,000 artillery rounds is enough to sustain Ukrainian military operations, think again. According to Valery Zaluzhnyi, commander-in-chief of Ukraine’s Armed Forces, the Russians are shooting 60,000 rounds a day. If Ukraine was firing at that same rate, the 100,000 rounds would be expended in two days. Then what? The fact that the war is entering its ninth month and the United States has not been able to ramp up production of 155 mm howitzer shells is a further reminder that the defense production capability of the United States has been hollowed out.

60 posted on 11/16/2022 7:43:34 AM PST by Kazan
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