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Russia likely stockpiled missiles to fight NATO
The New Voice of Ukraine via Yahoo ^ | November 19th, 2022 | Unattributed

Posted on 11/19/2022 8:03:34 PM PST by Mariner

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To: DannyTN
Here's what you, apparently, consider to be the Ukrainians winning:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/11/20/freezing-ukrainians-left-without-electricity-without-heating-without-water-kyiv-mayor/

“They [left] us freezing,” he said. “Without electricity, without heating, without water.”

Power still comes on – sometimes – but it can no longer be relied upon. In a city with ubiquitous wifi and where most anything could be done online, rolling hours-long electricity cuts are the horrid new norm for many. President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says Russian strikes have damaged around half of Ukraine’s energy infrastructure.

In blacked-out Kyiv restaurants, diners feel their way through meals in near-darkness, served by waiters carrying candles. Residents wake in the dead of night – if that’s when it’s their turn to get a few hours of power again – to shower and do laundry.

101 posted on 11/20/2022 9:38:58 AM PST by Kazan
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To: DannyTN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3LtmulODrI

Update on Russian military operations in Ukraine for November 21, 2022

- Russian makes incremental gains in the Donbass region; - Ukraine’s power grid continues to degrade under Russian missile and drone strikes;
- Ukraine continues denying responsibility for missile strike in Poland;
- US claims NASAMS air defense systems performed at 100% effectiveness, provide no numbers or proof of this claim;
- There are not enough NASAMS arriving in Ukraine over the next several years to protect Ukraine from further Russian missile and drone salvos;
- Ukraine has more or less abandoned Kherson city;
- US DoD admits Ukraine cannot achieve its main objective of expelling Russia;
- Failure to achieve Ukraine’s objective while continuing to fight and lose men and equipment equates to demilitarization;

102 posted on 11/20/2022 9:47:07 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Mariner
Russia likely stockpiled missiles to fight NATO

What kind of Dilbert thinks up this stupid dreck?

They have only been doing that for the past 75 years.

103 posted on 11/20/2022 10:27:10 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: NorseViking

And Russia has proven they don’t know how to do logistics and keep their tanks fueled. So a bunch of Tanks without logistics = a losing army.

A big army is really about logistics more than anything. Russia may fix their issues after humiliating defeat. But it will be tough as their culture doesn’t support what is needed to maintain a modern military. So their best bet for now is to focus on Nukes and stop invading other countries.


104 posted on 11/20/2022 10:47:06 AM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: cranked; for-q-clinton
“Russia’s only defense against nato is nukes.”

Put the crack pipe down.

But please, bring your NATO collective asses into Russia backyard cause it time to see just how badass those NATO suicidal psychopaths truly are.

There was a reason that REFORGER was such a big deal every year for for 25 years.

The exercise was intended to ensure that NATO had the ability to quickly deploy forces to West Germany in the event of a conflict with the Warsaw Pact. Although most troops deployed were from the United States, the operation also involved a substantial number of troops from other NATO countries including Canada and the United Kingdom. Multiple Air Forces also took part in all of the REFORGER ops, see USAF, RAF, German AF, and NATO Air Forces histories.
I spent two years in the Azores and for those weeks it looked and sounded like The Berlin Airlift on that little (10 by 18 miles) island as the aircraft bounced across the Atlantic over to Europe and back again.
105 posted on 11/20/2022 11:02:06 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Timber Rattler

These Putin lovers actually believe there are half a million pissed off Russians massing for a massive winter offensive.

Of course the 50,000 of the mobiks were sent to Ukraine with 100 year old bolt action rifles.

They must be saving the “good stuff” for the masses.


106 posted on 11/20/2022 11:10:29 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: higgmeister

So you’re saying that Russia can’t even beat Ukraine, but can take on all of NATO? You are the one with a crackpipe...and clearly it’s empty as you smoked it all.


107 posted on 11/20/2022 12:34:36 PM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: Kazan

“” Ukraine has more or less abandoned Kherson city””

Ukraine abandoned Kherson city?


108 posted on 11/20/2022 12:51:16 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: for-q-clinton
So you’re saying that Russia can’t even beat Ukraine, but can take on all of NATO? You are the one with a crackpipe...and clearly it’s empty as you smoked it all.

Nope, I was only pointing out that Nukes are not “Russia’s only defense against nato” and they have never been either.

What do you think the A-10 Warthog was developed for?

We could end this quickly if we Nuked that conman clown Zelenskyy.

109 posted on 11/20/2022 1:13:49 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

LMAO. Russia’s only defense is AMD.
That’s it. Their army can’t take anything as proven in Ukraine.


110 posted on 11/20/2022 1:43:06 PM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: for-q-clinton

And your opinion is based on what? Ukrainian propaganda?


111 posted on 11/20/2022 4:23:43 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

On the ground evidence from when I was there last week.


112 posted on 11/20/2022 4:24:09 PM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: Mariner

Perhaps Russia isn’t stupid enough to outsource critical military components to potential adversaries so that they can still produce missiles domestically? The U.S. outsourcing critical military chip production to China was treason, pure and simple.


113 posted on 11/20/2022 4:30:30 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: for-q-clinton

LoL. The place is not particularly accessible. You have to be a part of their propaganda then.


114 posted on 11/20/2022 4:51:28 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: higgmeister

“”We could end this quickly if we Nuked that conman clown Zelenskyy.””

You are confused, we and the rest of NATO support Ukraine, it is Russia our side opposes.


115 posted on 11/20/2022 5:02:04 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: NorseViking

And how do you know it’s not true?

Even Russia admits they pulled out of Kherson. Or is that their propaganda lying to show them weaker than they really are...why? Who knows why...you’re the one that doesn’t even believe Russia saying they pulled out.


116 posted on 11/20/2022 5:03:57 PM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: for-q-clinton

What it has to do with weakness when there is a dam upstream the enemy can destroy? The ciry is intact, the people are alive. The Uke forces can be grinded elsewhere.


117 posted on 11/20/2022 5:08:32 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

In that case, russia might as well pull back to Crimea and grind the ukes there.

LOL. And why even take Kherson to begin with?


118 posted on 11/20/2022 5:10:18 PM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: Vermont Lt

It’s pure gaslighting and wishcasting.


119 posted on 11/21/2022 3:37:26 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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